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Gangplank General Guide by Customtm

Tanky DPS - Damage & Tanking

Tanky DPS - Damage & Tanking

Updated on November 2, 2012
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Customtm (18) | November 8, 2012 12:04am

Going to downvote this for a couple of reasons...

I'm going to ignore the "no boots" argument. I personally wouldn't do it, but if you get to a full build and you like no boots, then I don't have a problem with it. Lack of boots isn't the reason I downvoted.

1. Number 1 is the fact that you are talking about everything as though you already have a full build. Your build is INCREDIBLY expensive, and I don't know about you but it is actually quite rare to get fully built. I am going to use the Nidalee build for an example. The final build costs 4070 + 3000 + 2355 + 2610 + 3830 + 2845 + 600 (assuming you bought Mercury Treads and later sold them). This brings us to a total of 19310. As I said, in most games you will not get anywhere near this amount of money, so you need to account for the fact that you won't have all your items.

2. So if you don't have all your items, what does that mean? It means you are not as effective as your build makes it out to be, because you are lacking damage, HP, armour or MR. I would suggest adding cheaper alternatives to these items, because it looks to me like you chose the biggest most expensive items you could find, and threw them together. What about Spirit Visage (cheap HP, MR, CDR), Shurelyas, and so on? There is a reason no one builds super expensive items in every slot, because it takes too long to become effective, and if you are getting destroyed by magic damage early in the game, it will take you way too long to build Force of Nature and Warmog's Armour to counter it, when you can build a cheaper item.

3. Your "Don't build" section. I don't mind that you think some of these items should not be bought (Manamune), but you don't even act like these can be built on anyone. Youmuu's Ghostblade, Guardian Angel, Sunfire Cape and Banshee's Veil are all very good items, for various reasons. They may not be good on every single character, but they are certainly usable.

4. You also need to change your < 3000 HP and so on, because that means LESS than 3000 HP. Should be > 3000 HP.

I think the overall problem with this guide is that you are making a "general build" for many different characters. Each character has reasons to build certain items, and giving an overall guide is just silly. Saying "this item is always good" or "this item always sucks" for 10+ different characters will mean that the statement is simply not true.


1. I don't know how you do with last hitting and stuff but I know I reach about 14 K with Sona in a 40 min game. Nidalee for example is capable of more than that. AOE clear, high mobility, Teleport etc.

2. I don't have all my items. But I can buy a cheap Negatron Cloak. Or a chainvest. People can't understand that there are cheap things before the big part. And even if I just got the Warmogs + Trinity + Force of Nature combo that's enough. I never had problems due to items in any phase unless I suck at last hitting

3. Of course you can buy those. But they are niche items for different kind of play styles. You got 6 slots and you want to tank and deal damage at the same time. There is no around if you don't want to lack something. And there are certain items that can be used as well. As written in the guide you are not supposed to take the build and go. You can create your own stuff and if you can make Spirit Visage viable go ahead. There is nothing stopping your from that unless you are a meta sheep that needs to have every item included that you may consider good.

4. Will change that

I think the overall opinion with your statement is that you think there is a "general" build in this guide for several characters. Each character SHOULD be build how it works, I just suggested possibilities to be more effective than some 0815 bruiser Nidalee. It is a pure fact that I played with these builds and always had fun but don't think I build every character always the same. These items are expensive for a reason. They are good and if you can't get the money together... well then you have to stay with your ghostblade, sorry about that.
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Skymin_Flower (2) | November 7, 2012 11:38pm
Voted -1
Going to downvote this for a couple of reasons...

I'm going to ignore the "no boots" argument. I personally wouldn't do it, but if you get to a full build and you like no boots, then I don't have a problem with it. Lack of boots isn't the reason I downvoted.

1. Number 1 is the fact that you are talking about everything as though you already have a full build. Your build is INCREDIBLY expensive, and I don't know about you but it is actually quite rare to get fully built. I am going to use the Nidalee build for an example. The final build costs 4070 + 3000 + 2355 + 2610 + 3830 + 2845 + 600 (assuming you bought Mercury Treads and later sold them). This brings us to a total of 19310. As I said, in most games you will not get anywhere near this amount of money, so you need to account for the fact that you won't have all your items.

2. So if you don't have all your items, what does that mean? It means you are not as effective as your build makes it out to be, because you are lacking damage, HP, armour or MR. I would suggest adding cheaper alternatives to these items, because it looks to me like you chose the biggest most expensive items you could find, and threw them together. What about Spirit Visage (cheap HP, MR, CDR), Shurelyas, and so on? There is a reason no one builds super expensive items in every slot, because it takes too long to become effective, and if you are getting destroyed by magic damage early in the game, it will take you way too long to build Force of Nature and Warmog's Armour to counter it, when you can build a cheaper item.

3. Your "Don't build" section. I don't mind that you think some of these items should not be bought (Manamune), but you don't even act like these can be built on anyone. Youmuu's Ghostblade, Guardian Angel, Sunfire Cape and Banshee's Veil are all very good items, for various reasons. They may not be good on every single character, but they are certainly usable.

4. You also need to change your < 3000 HP and so on, because that means LESS than 3000 HP. Should be > 3000 HP.

I think the overall problem with this guide is that you are making a "general build" for many different characters. Each character has reasons to build certain items, and giving an overall guide is just silly. Saying "this item is always good" or "this item always sucks" for 10+ different characters will mean that the statement is simply not true.
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sirell (400) | October 29, 2012 10:53am
Voted +1

FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Garen with trinity force?!!!!!!!!!


The only thing Garen doesn't benefit from in Triforce is the mana pool. The rest is all +1 for him.

The junglers section doesn't look amazing to me (there are better and more effective routes to take), but downvoting is just plain stupid.

Other tanky DPS routes might utilize:

Wit's End/ Maw of Malmortius
Madred's Bloodrazor
Frozen Mallet/ Trinity Force
Guardian Angel
Mercury's Treads
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RRelaxing | October 24, 2012 4:53pm
Voted +1
+1 Great guide.
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The Garenator | October 24, 2012 5:30am
Voted -1
FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Garen with trinity force?!!!!!!!!!
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Ssenkrad II (5) | October 20, 2012 12:32am
Voted -1
Getting downvotes for no reason at all sucks!

Edit: No boots? This can not be a serious guide with no boots can it?


Note regarding the author of this guide:

He randomly downvotes any other guide that competes against his own. When asked why he responds with;

"I don't like color in guides..."


This guy is a mad troll voter and his guide shouldn't be read by anyone. He edits his responses so it might read different when you read it.

I'll leave this here as a warning for all those looking at his guides and those who might think about voting themselves: don't support trolls.

Thanks,

Ssenkrad II
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Customtm (18) | September 15, 2012 1:22am
steveOHO wrote:

I've been using a slightly similar build on jayce where I go for a consistent boots 1 heart of gold and IE before 20 minutes every time I hit that mark I completely carry while tanking with this type of build. Jayce has built in mobility a gap closer a slow and a knock back giving him an A+ on cc and damage. Jayce is the pinical of not needing boots. I would I strongly suggest trying to build him with your guide but subbing out the fon for a banshiesveil as he needs the extra health and exchanging the PD for a frozen heart as he is somewhat reliant on cdr and mana and this fills both for him quite well. I usually will take the pd however if an ap is top. My point is overall jayce in the late game with this type of build will be able to focus and annihilate single targets in team fight so he acts as almost a second carry for your team and someone who can 1 v 1 anyone on the map with this build. Jayce and this build in the higher elo ranges just destroys everything and everyone. Good build
P.S. when I play adc's I have always sold my boots for a train force or pd.


Thanks for the post. I agree with you that you can use banshee's if the problem is health but whenever I tried Jayce I got the feeling he's pretty slow just like Darius, even with PD. He does not need AS though bc of his awesome W and tons of abilities tp spam meanwhile. But that's just my experience, I didn't try it more often, so it might be wrong.

Thanks anyway, I'll look into that.
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steveOHO (1) | September 13, 2012 6:41pm
Voted +1
Already talked about it in the comments
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steveOHO (1) | September 13, 2012 6:39pm
I've been using a slightly similar build on jayce where I go for a consistent boots 1 heart of gold and IE before 20 minutes every time I hit that mark I completely carry while tanking with this type of build. Jayce has built in mobility a gap closer a slow and a knock back giving him an A+ on cc and damage. Jayce is the pinical of not needing boots. I would I strongly suggest trying to build him with your guide but subbing out the fon for a banshiesveil as he needs the extra health and exchanging the PD for a frozen heart as he is somewhat reliant on cdr and mana and this fills both for him quite well. I usually will take the pd however if an ap is top. My point is overall jayce in the late game with this type of build will be able to focus and annihilate single targets in team fight so he acts as almost a second carry for your team and someone who can 1 v 1 anyone on the map with this build. Jayce and this build in the higher elo ranges just destroys everything and everyone. Good build
P.S. when I play adc's I have always sold my boots for a train force or pd.
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Customtm (18) | September 13, 2012 12:43am
M8 it is really nice that you joined today, just to downvote, thx 4 that.

Unfortunately your comment makes no sense until you explain me what exactly makes them not suitable.
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OmgIva | September 13, 2012 12:16am
Voted -1
I think the item choices for junglers are not suitable...
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BarbJ (73) | September 11, 2012 4:15pm
I mean they can disagree with you, but they don't need to be rude about it. I feel that you're doing a much better job of handling it than many other people do. Haven't seen you curse anyone out yet, so I felt it deserved something above another comment.
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