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I can see the trolls are coming out of the woodwork. It took a while actually.
But yeah it is another great guide by you, could have had more information, but with the season 3 patch incoming, I can see why you held back. Lmao I am so screwed when that patch comes.
Lol, good luck on your Kha'Zix guide, I think there'll be competition towards who finishes first!
I can see the trolls are coming out of the woodwork. It took a while actually.
But yeah it is another great guide by you, could have had more information, but with the season 3 patch incoming, I can see why you held back. Lmao I am so screwed when that patch comes.
and how is everything i said incorrect rofl
still no one maxes condemn cuz it's ******ed
generic positoning and focus is all that's necessary. impossible to go specific on positioning anyway due to infinite many circumstances.
invisibility doesn't "save someone's life" one should never be put in such a position anyway.
invisibility allows for abuse against incompetent players who do not realize vayne can stealth so you can get a kill.
the way you phrase it is very important
People almost always never use the whole one second duration of the stealth. People use the ult for re-positioning. Wasting that one second is ridiculous and will cause one to lose a fight unless he/she was put in a horrible position in the first place.
Customtm everything you said was 100% incorrect
BT IE are always main items no one EVER rushes a LW or GA that's absurd. The only viable alternative is a PD rush which opts for a smoother and stronger mid game with less sustain.
There's no such thing as "full AD route". No one maxes condemn first anymore that was when it was broken. Vayne's early game focuses around farming and maxing tumble is best for securing that early game.
Vayne's invisibility is only a slight second for repositioning and is negligible if looking at the big picture.
Sorry, but everything u said was 100% incorrect.
I do not recommend rushing an Infinity Edge AND a Bloodthirster how it's done right here. Even better you also wrote the exact dam thing in your comment. I do not know why I even wrote the AND in big letters if people still can't read.
My point was about taking first Bloodthirster and Phantom Dancer combo and straight after Infinity Edge which I (and you too hopefully...) think is not a good idea, especially if it's Vayne. No, I don't rush Guardian Angel that's so absurd that you maybe should have read again and thought about what it could mean instead. Takes less time than a flame post.
Still chapter about positioning and stuff is needed and I have saved my life several times thanks to invisibility, nothing else. That's noting to argue about, it's a fact the most useful second of the entire fight when you vanish.
BT IE are always main items no one EVER rushes a LW or GA that's absurd. The only viable alternative is a PD rush which opts for a smoother and stronger mid game with less sustain.
There's no such thing as "full AD route". No one maxes condemn first anymore that was when it was broken. Vayne's early game focuses around farming and maxing tumble is best for securing that early game.
Vayne's invisibility is only a slight second for respositioning and is negligible if looking at the big picture.
@the guide itself:
build is mostly correct, however IE 3rd is only if snowballing. Most cases QSS or GA for survivability or LW for dmg.
Masteries correct, I tend to take 2 in minion dmg but all pers pref.
Info is very vague and focuses on minor unimportant details
Most info is very wrong too.
Heal is good
Harass isn't easier with AD runes arpen runes makes harassing easier. ArPen does more dmg to champs than ad runes do
AS marks are horrible
ArPen quints are horrible
GA vs QSS vague
Individual AD matchups are too specific. It's impossible to get that much info from only the AD. Only combined with AD and sup will the matchups be determinable.
Ali is not first ban/pick material.
Blitz is only banned in soloq because in low elo people cannot trust their support / adc.
Lux Zyra and Taric info kinda awkward.
you miss out on most of the other supts like raka janna etc
For nunu sup: you only list out what nunu can do rather than why they have synergy. also no vayne can condemn a person back into a nunu ult unless fighting in a ******ed position
You don't tumble whenever you can. You tumble to reposition and in teamfights you will never wait 1 second to restealth
Tips and tricks kinda vague
the item, masteries and runes are fine. Just one thing: Rushing a Bloodthirster AND Infinity Edge is not a good idea. Always take Last Whisper or even Guardian Angel after you have finished your Bloodthirster + Phantom Dancercombo. Her damage is immense and both are much faster to purchase. Raw damage may be useful later but not by midgame. Hopefully this can be read now...
You also should mention that if you go the full flat AD route (which you actually do), you should be better off maxing condemn either first or second. It let's you damage skyrocket early where she is weakest and helps a lot.
I'd give +1 if this wasn't a guide about Vayne.
Vayne's best part is that she deals monstrous damage but what? There must be a larger section about how to position in a teamfight who to focus and at least a warning about Oracle's Elixir because the Tumble isn't a great escape at all but being invisible is. You are really screwed late because of the awful range she has. Surviving late is what decides whether you win or not. This is not such a big deal on other ADs but in a guide about Vayne it's mandatory and probably the largest section together with laning.
Btw, Trueshot Barrage cannot be cancelled by anything other than death, similar to Unstoppable Force.
Also, what are your opinions on getting Phantom Dancer as a first major item? I've seen many people be successful with that build path and I have to admit it's worked out for me as well.
~NoobyPower
EDIT: Even when knocked back Trueshot Barrage still fires from its original position when cast.