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Searz wrote:
Actually, it should be the other way around :P
7AS marks, 2 ArP marks and 3 ArP quints.
While it doesn't make any difference in stats AS quints are just generally a bad buy because they're almost never needed/useful since you can achieve the same results with AS marks.
Yeah, I realized I got it mixed up. The point is you run a mix of AS and ArP marks/quints to get to 12 ArP and 14% AS.
Searz wrote:
Naah, I'd take 9ArP marks (or 2-3 AS marks) instead. AD marks just fall off so hard compared to AD quints. The quints are 37% stronger after all.
Any jungler who has a strong auto attack and can start with
Vampiric Scepter is a good candidate for AD quints.No, this is wrong. AD quints make the jungle much faster and stronger for Xin Zhao and Trundle solely because of that autoattack reset. Trundle saves a good 200 health running that setup over the standard setup, iirc. It also allows Trundle to clear the entire wolf camp before starting blue, even without a leash on wolves.
But isn't the difference between 3AD marks and 3ArP marks rather minimal in that path?
AD marks fall off much harder than the AD quints in mid/lategame, that's why I prefer ArP.
AD marks fall off much harder than the AD quints in mid/lategame, that's why I prefer ArP.
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I'll try it (I do own both after all), but I still doubt that changing 3 marks to AD from ArP will make a difference when you already have AD marks.
Also, mind linking to a build (masteries+starting items) with those runes?
Also, mind linking to a build (masteries+starting items) with those runes?
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Soo I tried it. (Trundle ofc, I don't care about Xin :P)
I really can't see any difference other than maybe 10 or 20 HP more and 1-3sec faster.
NOT worth it.
I also found out that his masteries (1/14/15) are pretty meh.. I'd take 1/8/21 over that any day on Trundle.
I really can't see any difference other than maybe 10 or 20 HP more and 1-3sec faster.
NOT worth it.
I also found out that his masteries (1/14/15) are pretty meh.. I'd take 1/8/21 over that any day on Trundle.
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Searz wrote:
WAT
You got no ****ing idea of what you're talking about --.--
Erm, what? Yeah I do. >.>
I start E. 0/21/9 Masteries (or 1/21/8). If you use armor seals you still have less then hp then dodge seals + quints and you have a faster jungle time due to dodge seals + quints being better for E.
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Jax can use either armor or dodge. Dodge is better with quints.
WAT
You got no ****ing idea of what you're talking about --.--