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[quote=ZioSerpe]Make [[vayne guide]] max [[silver bolts]] get 98% /thread[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Vayne isn't what I'd call an ideal solo lane though. The sustain and more importantly sturdy nature of most solo lane champs makes it difficult to put the function of leveling SB to use. You level SB because you're a wild man. (Or woman.) You level SB because your lane opponents simply cannot trade with you. It's get zoned or get killed in most lanes vrs squishy champs. Wither is a natural counter to auto attacking. You're not going to see that in the duo lanes. At any rate, I recorded them with LoLreplay, yes. Megauploads eh... I'll see what I can do.[/quote]

[quote=Gunnarownsu]please stop arguing about [[silver bolts]] on this thread, chat somewhere else[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]Well it was already decided you would make a [[Vayne]] guide, wasn't it? Might as well listen to some of the different opinions that members of this community have while you're at it ^^[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]Sorry for providing you with differing opinions of Vayne's skilling order, Gunn. Personally I use every single bit of information I can to improve my guides, and if you'd rather not listen to theory crafting, that's your own prerogative. Instead of shooting this discussion down, why not facilitate discussion? You also didn't reply to my comment about MR > AR on Vayne. I'd like to see your Vayne guide when it is done, to see how you've utilised the resources around you.[/quote]

[quote=Bryun]Don't expect your guide to get top immediately, it took like a month or two for mine to get first after [b]TONS AND TONS[/b] of editing. Make sure it's an optimal way to build your character too because no matter how good it looks aesthetically if the build sucks, it will be down-voted.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=jhoijhoi] Sorry for providing you with differing opinions of Vayne's skilling order, Gunn. Personally I use every single bit of information I can to improve my guides[/quote] yet you still max [[tumble]] 1st [img=http://www.gifsoup.com/view/1043375/barkley-head-shake-o.gif][/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]^Yes, personally I max it. But I provide all the possible alternatives in my guide. Such as maxing Condemn first (as high elo people do). My personal experience is maxing SB first leads to failure, and I've detailed all of that in my guide. If someone said Rabadon's Deathcap was great on Garen, would you put that in your guide? Quoting myself, just as you did: [quote=jhoijhoi]Personally I use every single bit of information I can to improve my guides[/quote] IMPROVE. I improve my guide by including every single bit of information I can. Don't try to turn my own words against me, when you knew perfectly well what I meant. [img=http://www.gifsoup.com/view/1043375/barkley-head-shake-o.gif][/quote]

[quote=Gunnarownsu]Yes I like the conversation, I have been busy all day with school so thanks for the posts. Jhoi Jhoi I like actually going bot with this build to shut down their AD carry, because all the armour, dodge, and lifesteal from [[wriggle's lantern]] and [[ninja tabi]] makes me very resistant to their autoattacks. Feel free to argue and debate my build[/quote]

[quote=Gunnarownsu]Still toying with getting a [[banshee's veil]] or [[force of nature]] FoN is prolly a bad idea though.[/quote]