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Off-tank (not ks-ing) jungle darius build

Creator: Knigrowedamus August 11, 2012 2:25pm
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"OMGSTOPKSMEDARIUS" no more.
I found an interesting build for darius that focuses oh stacking hemmorage faster, scaling it with a little ap and ignite. It also helps while jungling

Start with cloth armour and 4 health pots.

Jungle route-
Blue buff
Wolves
Wraiths
Lizard
Golems
(if they dont have a jungle and u want to risk it go to their golems on top)
See if top needs a gank
Wolves
Wraiths
Recall
Repeat

Build vampiric secpter then rush malady or wits end.
Build into vampiric into executioner's calling
Boots of speed into merc threads
Phage to frost mallet
Giant belt to warmogs
And finally, atmas impailer

Gank combo
Q > attack, executioners active, attack, ignite, E, attack, attack, attack, ult = dead tank/carry/mage /other darius
Why?
Ive tested this and all i can say is wow....
Just like how Morgana's (my <3) tormented soil stacks with ignite,
With darius if u give him a little AS with Malady, the opponents magic resist is lowered, which synergizes with his passive, which combined with executioners active (adds bonus magic damage)AND passive(greveious wound), which stacks with ignite, his w bonus damage with 5sacks , means alot of damage.
Works better if you lane with ignite, build more off tankis, but the malday still helps in the jungle.
If you jungle propperly, you could have 2-3 kills before the lane
Phase, so there is no reason to be a giant douche and try to mop up in a team fight with your ult.
Find the carry, kill them, harass and disrupt.
What do you guys think?
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Malady is terrible. Wit's end is infinitely better.

If starting, you should start Cloth + 5 Health Pots.

You can start Wolves first you know right? I'd go: Wolves > Blue > Wraiths > Golems or Wolves > Red > Wraiths. That will get you to level 4, when you can level up your grab.

Executioner's Calling is okayish, but considering you aren't like building any AD it's pretty bad.

Also, look up the stats before you start suggesting combos. Executioner's active applies Grevious Wounds, not bonus magic damage, and it's passive applies bonus true damage, not Grevious Wound. AP does not effect Hemmorrage's scaling. AD does.

When you go to gank, people aren't going to stand there for you to autoattack them and Q them. They are going to move, and hopefully buy wards if they are smart. Thus, all your ganks do nothing, and you will be forced to kill steal to get money.

What are you going to go for summoner's spells? Smite/ Ignite? Ignite is generally a kill secure summoner spell, and generally only seen on Shaco or Lee Sin. Darius doesn't have enough mobility in my opinion to be able to get away without Ghost or Flash.

You are practically lying through your teeth with the title and first sentence. You've made a build that addresses nothing about the whole "OMGSTOPKSINGMEDARIUS" deal. In fact, you've probably enhanced it by decreasing the time it takes to apply stacks of your passive. There's no reason to be mopping up teamfights with your ult in the first place, whether you have kills or not. Darius works fine with mostly assists. It's the ult reset, if a proper Darius wrecks teamfights then their team should be looking to end it immediately, before Darius falls off and his other carries are gold starved. Having this build doesn't alieve any of the above information.

Your build isn't even "off-tank". You are building more on-hit and even more reliant on your ult to get kills (= Kill steal). Maybe it's just me, but I doubt this build would work that well later in the game. You have very little damage and are reliant on your ultimate to kill people (again = Kill steal) and you aren't as tanky as an "off-tank" build. (Off tank build most commonly seen: Mercury's Treads/ Frozen Mallet/ Randuin's Omen/ Maw of Malmortius/ Warmog's Armor or Atma's Impaler/ Guardian Angel)

I think it's a nice attempt to not kill steal like crazy, but I don't think this is the right way.

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Well if a could add something to waht Jpika said, i would. But there is nothing. However, if i am not mistaken, Executioner's Calling deals magic damage and not true damage, as i have seen it pop up in purple and deal 3 or 2 damage to champs with some MR. LoL wiki also says it is magic damage.

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It's very simple to not KS with any build for Darius.

Just intentionally miss your ult. That's like the most pro maneuver a Darius can pull off.

PS: my guide has a lovely section about this exact subject. ;D
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PS: my guide has a lovely section about this exact subject. ;D


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I all seriousness though, that is the best advice for not ksing.

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Firstly , i was really excited when i wrote this as i had a bunch of good games when i fed my carries and i wanted to get this off my chest. I didnt explain myself propperly, so for that, im sorry. :)
Secondly, thankyou for such well thought out critisim. With all the trolls out there its nice to know poeple take the time to give good advice
Thirdly, otgbionicarm ( u like marvel eh?), your guide really inspired me as i was item searching, which inread after the fact. Good ****!
1. I lane with , ignite or exhaust, and with ghost or flash. He is slow i agree, so i lean towards ghost .
2. Tested. Ignite, plus executioner passive, plus hemm stacks plus ignite = gtfo of the lane.
I try to do my best to harras the carry. If i cant kill, i at LEAST make them run becuase that combo does alot of damage!!! I dont rely on it, but it helps.
3. My previously posted combos were derp. I was too excited. Here is what i do now.
R-E -attack -ignite -attack-executioner active -q- wait( if the carry can kill go for it) - attack-r
4. Wits end is nice, but too much $$$ . Malady only costs around what $1875? Near lvl 12 my attack speed gets up around 1.3.
This is nice for jungling and creeping imo. Executioners calling goes with the vampirism offense mastery as well, 3% + 12% = 15% life steal AND and an effect that makes them bleed more and heal less? Ill hold that.
5. When im jungling i do start with armour and pots like OTG suggests with smite and ghost.
I rush malady , so that i end up with boots, vampiric , cloth armour, malady.
Now i can sustain in the jungle and stack hemmorage faster.
6. I was under the impression that his passive scales with AP. am i wrong?Seems so. But zeal cost a little less but is a waste imo. Mabye switch to a recure bow?
I figured that when i play as morg, ignite plus tormented soil does crazy damage. I tired to apply the same concept with his passive.
7. Did you read all of my post?
My final build was
Merc threads, malday, exectioners calling, mallet, warmogs, atma.
Off-tank. Right? I think so. Sometimes i swap mallet for randuins or frozen heart,gardian angel, and zekes herald.

The reason why i posted this was becuase i played 20 games with a darius , who ****ed off all game only to come in and ult half ir all of the team. Sure he was fed, but we didnt have any cash.
Imo, if i jungle and i gank a feew times sucessfully, i will have enough money to buy more core items, And can now focus on making my teamates fat with kills and win the game.
I hope i explained myself a little better this time :D
Thanks alot guys
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Ps....
If i may Add, i dont want to be that guy who runs into a tream fight and presses "R" and types in the chat window
"gg rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr@ and wonders why he didnt get a penta -_-. No fun for me or my team.
I play him jungle style, warwick-eske.
Jungle, gank top, jungle gank bot or mid , guve someone blue, take red, kill dragon, gank somemore, kill carries in team fights, harras disruptive champs(looking at you alistor, poppy, etc) and feed my team.
Im stuck in solo queue half the time where poeple feel like its a one man show. It is a team game after all, so im just trying to give a different look at the champ that people seem to live to QQ and T_T about all game.
Thanks again
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@Anastasios

I could of sworn Executioner's Calling was true, damage, but now I'm not 100% sure.

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2. You don't need Executioner's Calling to force some one out of lane as Darius. He is quite the lane bully, and can easily shove people out of lane just with his skills.

3. Explain to me how you can R to someone then do a long combo and then R to them again.

4. Wit's End costs 2150, Malady 1825. That's a difference of 325 gold. So, about one jungle clear. Your final build has very little magic resist for being an off-tank build, and I'd prefer 10% less attack speed in order to get 42 magic damage per hit and 50 magic resist with maximum stacks of Wit's End. I never said Executioner's Calling was the worst item of all, but considering you build only around 150~ AD (with your Atma's, not willing to do exact calcs right now), that lifesteal isn't really healing as much as it would if you had something like a The Bloodthirster.

4a. Also, Executioner's Calling gives 18% lifesteal, not 12%.

5. You aren't building your Cloth Armor into anything however. I haven't actually tested it, but I am pretty sure that Darius can go through the jungle quite easily with Boots of Speed + 3 Health Potions. You can also go Boots > Vamp > Recurve bow and have nearly the same stats that your current way gives, and the Recurve builds into Wit's End. Phage is also an amazing item to get early on Darius, as you can then slow people after your initial CC.

5a. Wait wait wait wait. Smite/ Ghost? I did recommend that, I know, but how are you going to get Ignite's like all your combos say they have?

6. His passive scales .4 per bonus AD I believe.

7. I read all of your post. You have just runes, masteries, and base for your magic resist outside of Mercury's Treads. Considering that I'm assuming you're initiating, that's a pretty dangerous amount of MR.

8. Yes, Darius's do that. However, like I've bee trying to say, I don't think any one "build" can prevent a Darius from kill stealing, it's more of a mentality problem. People have to prevent themselves from ulting everyone.

9 (your PS post). I understand why you are doing it, like I said in 8, it's more a mentality problem as it is a build problem. You probably don't want to be focusing Alistar and Poppy though. If you were to pull and Alistar into your team, he's say "Thank you very much" and proceed to CC your entire team while his team kills you. Poppy, "Thank you very much" and then ults your carry and instabursts them and runs away. If anybody, you should be focusing the AD and AP carries, at least zoning them from the fight if not killing them to give your team an easy time finishing off the rest.

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thanks for the advice.
as of right now, if i lane, i use ghost and ignite. if i jungle, i use ghost and smite.
i really like executioner because of the active. i dont know if i can give it up yet....
like i said b4, i didnt think that combo through as i was too escited to tell everyone about my build. as of now my lane combo is
E-ATTACK-W-IGNITE=EXECUTIONERS ACTIVE-ATTACK Q- ATTACK- R
obviously when i jungle i dont have ignite which is why i have executioners active. its like a seudo ignite for me.
cloth armour i sell later when im building my malady. i cant seem to jungle and start at blue if i dont have it.
i dont like having bloodthirster because its too much $$$.
by the end of my build, i have alot of heath and 205 attack (warmog and atmas)
just like otgbionicarm said in his guide, i sometimes get frozen heart and guardian angel for double ap teams.
what i am trying to build here is the "poor man's" darius, so that players know what to build when they have low $$#. as players wise up amd play smarter, you may have a bad game where you miss ganks and need items cheaper. i will test you suggestion of recurve bow into wits end again. the mr was nice but i was scrounging to finish mallet in time for teamfight time.
thanks

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