Orianna Discussion

[quote=Temzilla][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] THERE IS MATH[/quote] No there isn't, you linked to Page three of the General Forum for Mobafire.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Gragas is no where near a nuke. He has 2 ranged abilities. One is his ult. In order for him to nuke effectively, he has to use his psychic powers to predict where they're going to be and place his small barrel there. He then has to fling them over there with his ult which, IMO, is hard. [i]Then[/i] he has to body slam them which has not the greatest range. Orianna, on the other hand, is different.All of her abilities hurt. She can latch the tank to buff him and slow everyone around the tank a second or two after. Then, she disrupts all channels and then shields the carry/tank to finish it off and deal more damage on the way out. Orianna takes 3 seconds, max. Gragas takes 10 or so. EDIT: Link to the topic that Temzilla missed, [url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/general/orianna-shes-a-nuke-first-support-second-5336]here[/url].[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Lugignaf] Gragas is no where near a nuke. He has 2 ranged abilities. One is his ult. In order for him to nuke effectively, he has to use his psychic powers to predict where they're going to be and place his small barrel there. He then has to fling them over there with his ult which, IMO, is hard. [i]Then[/i] he has to body slam them which has not the greatest range. Orianna, on the other hand, is different.All of her abilities hurt. She can latch the tank to buff him and slow everyone around the tank a second or two after. Then, she disrupts all channels and then shields the carry/tank to finish it off and deal more damage on the way out. Orianna takes 3 seconds, max. Gragas takes 10 or so. [/quote] I know, it's a bad example, but Orianna still isn't a nuker. She's a support.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]sorry I got excited and didn't select the thread, it is the one Lugi linked, edited xD dude THERE IS MATH LOOK AT LINK AND IF U READ MY QUOTE ON FIRST PAGE SHE IS ALL NUKE WITH SUPPORTING ABILITIES IDK HOW SOMEONE COULD BE SO BLIND EVEN LEE SIN IS LESS BLIND THAN YOU !!!111!!! /fake rage[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]Also, that Scenario assumes that you use Q twice. Now, lets look at Leblanc. You hit Shift, smash your face against QWER, and you've just done 5000 damage. Who is a better nuker again?[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]Orianna. She has AoE. and amazing slow + haste AoE and team disable disrupt where as LB focuses on one person, and has single person stun and single silence. Ori's ult is like multiperson stun and silence and she has sustained slow and haste. gg not saying LB is bad nuke, she is up there, but Ori is higher.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]LB has "2" AoE. Orianna has 1, 2, 3, 4, Fifty billion AoE! Therefore, Orianna better nuke. Safer too.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] Orianna. She has AoE. gg [/quote] Nuker =/= AoE Orianna is a Support.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]I edited my post btw and dude, by arguing she is a support you are arguing with 2000+ Elo players, people who main her like me, and the motherfucking creator of her. who do you think is right, all of us, or you? :)[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Tem, you're not going to win. I'm 16. I know everything man. On topic: Orianna has 1.5 Support abilities. A speed changer and a shield. Both of these do AoE damage.[/quote]