Orianna Discussion

[quote=Temzilla][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] I edited my post btw and dude, by arguing she is a support you are arguing with 2000+ Elo players, people who main her like me, and the motherfucking creator of her. who do you think is right, all of us, or you? :) [/quote] 1. Ammumu was released as an AP Carry. 2. 2400 elo players build Warmog's Armor on Mordekaiser, they don't know what the fuck they're doing, they are just good at the game. 3. Mathematically, Orianna isn't as good of a nuker as many many others, like Fiddle Sticks, Amumu, Anivia, Annie, or pretty much anyone else with an AoE ability that has better than .5 scaling. [quote=Lugignaf] Tem, you're not going to win. I'm 16. I know everything man. On topic: Orianna has 1.5 Support abilities. A speed changer and a shield. Both of these do AoE damage. [/quote] Janna has 1 reliable support ability. Still the best babysitter in the game.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Wrong. Janna has 4 support abilities. Her passive speed boost, good for the whole team. It means she gets there faster. Her shield, great support ability. Her tornado, great interrupt while making for great initiation or escapes. Ult, great heal to sustain pushes and an interrupt. Hence, Janna=Support.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Lugignaf] Wrong. Janna has 4 support abilities. Her passive speed boost, good for the whole team. It means she gets there faster. Her shield, great support ability. Her tornado, great interrupt while making for great initiation or escapes. Ult, great heal to sustain pushes and an interrupt. Hence, Janna=Support. [/quote] Orianna's E shield, Orianna's W speed boost, and Orianna's R Fling. There you go, three support abilities. Also, Janna's passive speed boost is 3%, hardly worth adding as an entire ability.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]But support is secondary on them, the damage + utility is primary.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] But support is secondary on them, the damage + utility is primary. [/quote] Looking at their AP Ratios? I think not.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]Are you freaking kidding me? Dude, please just stop...this is a pointless argument with a blind man. It is like you are going up to Obama and telling him he is not the prez.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] Are you freaking kidding me? [/quote] No. .6 ratios on QWE .7 on R Maokai: Q .4 ratio W .8 ratio E 1 ratio R .5 ratio. Maokai is comparable as an AoE Burst caster, has better built in tankiness, can engage from much farther range with saplings, and doesn't rely on Auto Attacks to do damage. If you want an AoE Caster that relys on Auto Attacks to do damage, then play Kog Maw. If you want one of the best shields in the game, and a good harass champion with high base damage and meh ratios, then play orianna.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]LOL ORI DOESN'T RELY ON AUTO ATTACKS think about that if you get 500 AP your Q on a 2 or 3 sec CD does around 500-600 + W and ult you kill so quick your logic is botched up, just actually watch a good Orianna which you obviously have not I'm done with this pointless argument if you want to be proven wrong add me good night to you sir[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] LOL ORI DOESN'T RELY ON AUTO ATTACKS think about that if you get 500 AP your Q on a 2 or 3 sec CD does around 500-600 + W and ult you kill so quick your logic is botched up, just actually watch a good Orianna which you obviously have not I'm done with this pointless argument if you want to be proven wrong add me good night to you sir [/quote] That "math that proves Orianna is a burst character" takes into account over 700 damage from auto attacks. She is a mediocre burst caster when compared to Annie or LeBlanc. The only advantage she has is that her attacks are fairly long range. I'll give you that. But she is far from a nuker, a burst caster yes, but a nuker? No. Orianna can't kill people unless she's fed.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]NOT TRUE HOLY SHIT HAVE YOU EVEN PLAYED HER TO KNOW THIS... and plus you don't even need to use your auto attacks, just your ball alone can instakill people I PLAY HER, I KNOW THIS and once again, high Elo people as well as the fucking person who made her said the same thing. you are so wrong, and that is it.[/quote]