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zilean "core items"

Creator: MrBucketz June 17, 2011 5:25pm
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You mean lvl3 :P
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Searz wrote:

You mean lvl3 :P


Well, the 250 yeah maybe, :s but they hurt in any case.
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They do indeed.
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I'm not saying he can't solo lane. Yes I know his bombs are very strong early game, which is why I usually go bot and try to keep the other team off my lane partner so he can last hit. I would just think it would be better for a true mage to sololane, and in the case Zil did solo lane, I would wonder who would be bot splitting CS? It seems hard to compose a team if you let Zil solo lane.
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Haven't you seen Reginald play Zilean? Take a look at that.
He fits the AP damage/support role perfectly. He isn't really a support. He's more of an AP damage with support elements.
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I actually haven't seen any pros play Zilean, haha. I will try to find some. Could you send me some PM's if you have specific videos in mind? Or just post them. Zilean definitely fills an odd niche.
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Reginald played AP Zilean in mid in match 2 vs aAa in the tournament.
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I have to agree that Zil needs farm and AP to be most effective. I've found a couple of builds that work pretty well, but obviously you can't go by the same builds every time.

If I'm needing to support a bit more early game, and need more nuke late-game(where your support will be good no matter what), I build like this:

Doran's Ring
Ionian Boots of Lucidity
Tear of the Goddess
Blasting Wand or Needlessly Large Rod
Rod of Ages
Rabadon's Deathcap

You get great mana and mana regen with nifty 30% cooldown reduction, allowing you to spam A LOT and get off some great combo's. Don't forget to buy Elixir of Brilliance when you can to bring you to the cooldown cap!!


If I need more damage early, or honestly if I'm in an intense ranked game, I feel like this other build works better..:

Doran's Ring
Sorcerer's Shoes
Catalyst the Protector
Needlessly Large Rod to Rabadon's Deathcap
Then finish Rod of Ages
After that pick up Soul Shroud

This build lacks a lot of Cooldown reduction early on, but it's easy to get 15% from masteries and runes. If you pick up Elixir of Brilliance you'll have 25% reduction before you end up getting Soul Shroud. The reason I pick that up late is it gives you survivability (needed later game) and you can support your team while already being very dangerous.

That's just my two cents..
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Buy 1 to 3 Doran's Rings, then catalyst. Then ROA/Tear/Deathcap, then Tear/Deathcap then Deathcap/Tear/Banshee's Veil(if you didn't go ROA). Then whatever the **** you want in the AP or defense category.
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Searz, Reginald's team lost with him in mid as Zilean.

Your argument is invalid.


Contrary to "popular" belief, Zilean is a terrible champion if played as a mage.
People are mislead to believe he's a mage carry because he has a knack for getting kills. This is because, and only because, the double Time Bomb combo has a delay on the second half of it's nuke that makes KSing fairly common for Zilean.

You have to look at his other two skills; Time Warp, and Chronoshift.
Neither do damage, they're support/utility skills.

Zilean is a mage Support. Unlike normal supports, he requires AP, but he is still fundamentally a support.
He's a hybrid of sorts, which as history has shown us, doesn't work in the highest of rankings.


TL;DR answer: Zilean doesn't fit in high-elo premade team comps.

He's the kingly ruler of solo-queue, but a crippled old man in premades.
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