NA -- SR -- 7/20/2012 -- 300 wins and above ONLY

[quote=Wayne3100]I didn't say this game proves my point because I feel [[Cassiopeia]] actually did so well because of kills she got elsewhere, but I thought it was common knowledge [[Cassiopeia]] is the best known counter to [[Ryze]] (and I'm not even a mid player knowing that). As for some of the opinions of people that actually know what they're talking about, I'll send you some links of guides from eh... certain sites that shall not be named... to show their opinion :P[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]Yea, I realize a lot of people say she is good against Ryze; she can be but if Ryze just goes MR early, which really cuts down her DPS, he can be pretty good against her. It's mostly a skill matchup and based on early kills, I wouldn't say she is the BEST counter though.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][h5]*mutters something about lux countering ryze better....*[/h5][/quote]

[quote=Mowen]I mean the point of Cass countering Ryze is that she outranges him pretty badly, while also doing a lot of damage early game. So, it would make sense that Lux counters him too.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=PsiGuard] [h5]*mutters something about lux countering ryze better....*[/h5] [/quote] [h5]Xerath does it better[/h5][/quote]

[quote=Arcana3]lol... No actually lux does >.< Unlikes Xerath, Lux has a slow field, a snare, and a shield. Xerath? He can plant him self, down and use his Q a few times. Not much in the CC department :P Making Ryze, able to come up and after a E -> Q ryze ultis, gains all life back, and proceeds to rape said Xerath... *Cough Lux Number 1*[/quote]

[quote=Jovy]A shield isn't cc, so, Lux has a snare and an aoe slow. Xerath does 'have much in the cc department' actually. His E makes it so that the next ability hit stuns the enemy for 1.5 seconds. And while Lux's abilites outrange Xerath, they both outrange Ryze, which is why the are a counter to him.[/quote]

[quote=Arcana3][quote=MissMaw] A shield isn't cc, so, Lux has a snare and an aoe slow. Xerath does 'have much in the cc department' actually. His E makes it so that the next ability hit stuns the enemy for 1.5 seconds. And while Lux's abilites outrange [color=#ff0000]WHILE HE ISN'T IN TURRET FORM[/color] Xerath, they both outrange Ryze, which is why the are a counter to him. [/quote] Fixed ;)[/quote]

[quote=LaCorpse]Sign me up for this one though :3[/quote]

[quote=DuskToGlory][quote=LaCorpse] Sign me up for this one though :3 [/quote] Uh... this one has been over for 7 days now[/quote]