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Can ryze be beaten in lane? (plat diamond only)

Creator: throatslasher April 11, 2013 8:41pm
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I'm pretty sure Quinn's range is too short to abuse Ryze.

You could try a duo mid with Cait/Lulu or something if you're desperate to shut him down early.
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i can't say i've ever seen cait mid.

She works real well against ryze in particular.
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I've seen few Caitlyn's mid doing really well against Ryze. I've seen that matchup today, cait forces ryze to go back very early and then just outlevels him and outpokes.
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****....cait mid...what kind of comp do you have to run around that? the problem being that if they have a late ryze pick and i'm last pick (i'm usually last pick when we play teams) what do we pick around it? I hate having too heavy ad teams.
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I just suck with ori and cass. I tried to practice them tonight and it wasn't great. Any ryze players want to run some sets vs me?
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the one cait mid game ive seen they had an ap top, elise i think, and they had a trist as an adc but i dont remember the rest of the comp

but why not just do what psi said? have a cait/lulu or cait/janna mid lane to shut him down early and move your normal ap mid either top or bot
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**** off creedless. ryze is diana's hardest counter.

learn something and then come back.



If you want to ignore people's comments because you don't think the user posting is a good enough player to know what he/she is talking about, that's fine. Telling people to "**** off" is not.

I would've removed this had I seen it earlier, but since the discussion has already continued I'll leave it at a warning instead. That goes for C4 Lasty's comment too, tone it down.

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@Throat you remember early s1 when lol still had DOTA meta, carry mid to get as much farm and levels as possible.

You send ap-carries mid to counter the ad-carries.

Now ad-carries are bot, might as well send an ap-carry bot to counter them. If your ad-carry know how to play cassio, then send her bot with a support, most ad-carries suffer the same problem as a ryze that they're low range low up-front damage except that ad-carries are even more sustained damage and less bursty than ryze - cassio wrecks em.
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Try Syndra.

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