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wRAth's High Plat/Diamond Mid Tier List

Creator: wRAthoFVuLK February 23, 2013 10:32pm
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jhoijhoi wrote:

? Janna and Poppy to Tier 2? I have never seen a Janna mid lane. And Poppy has like 0 walls in mid. Would love to hear reasoning.


Janna midlane insta-clears minion waves, and with a lich bane she can take turrets down fast, making her a great splitpusher. She throws out 600 damage shields and can heal for like 200 damage per second with her ult. She has great roaming potential and good lategame, as well as splitpushing. I personally don't find her damage great, but it's pretty bad.

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Poppy - heavy damage late/mid, decent sustain, despite no walls doesn't matter, she can use her E similar to how hecarim uses his devastating charge. Has reasonable romaing abilities, poppy is also extremely difficult to gank due to her passive and the fact she is pushed a lot. Also her ultimate makes use for tower-diving mid (who usually is a squishy ap) with a Jungler. Their mid lane is also prone to ganks more since they cant help but push. Since mid lane is more scared to push to the turret where poppy would be last hitting, then poppy can free-farm quite easily. Poppy mid is also unexpected so, the opponent may underestimate you.

Only downfall to poppy in mid lane is their mid can roam when they push the lane, but with sufficient wards this problem can be resolved.
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Anivia wtf tier?
Kass "only" tier 2
Tf is the wtf tier of wtf tiers.
Ahri isn't really tier 1 rite now.
Karthus is too low imo.
You need wukong put into tier 1.
Apart from that a good list.
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Thanks for the tier list! Got a question you might be able to help me with. I keep seeing mids like TF, Anivia, Lux, etc. at or near the top of most tier lists I see. On the one hand, I totally understand - good wave clears, good poke, utility in teamfights.

However, when I am in game as them, I just feel SO vulnerable in lane, and when I am playing against them, I honestly get excited because I feel like if they miss their skillshots, I can almost instagib them, when playing someone like Fizz.

I try to play passive in lane with those types of champs, but maybe I am not playing passive enough. I understand that with TF and Lux, you can farm effectively from long range, even at early levels. But for someone like Anivia, I have like no wave-clear pre-6, so if I want to farm, I need to at least get a little bit close to minions.

So I understand that it is accepted that champs like that are high-tier, I'm just wondering how you compensate for their squishy early games with no escapes. Thanks!
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WTF Tier: Kayle, Lux, Ryze, Akali, Anivia
Tier 1: Twisted Fate, Rumble, Syndra, Nidalee, Orianna, Katarina, Ahri, Kha'zix, Evelynn
Tier 2: Lee Sin, Jarvan IV, Diana, Zed, Zyra, Cho'Gath, Kassadin, Cassiopeia, Pantheon, Gragas, Ziggs, Master Yi, Fizz
Tier 3: Karthus, Veigar, Annie, Morgana, Brand, Xerath, Teemo, Mordekaiser, Zilean, Swain, Vladimir, Talon
Tier 4: anyone else

Anivia is far too slow to be put in WTF Tier. He damage is lacking compared to other bursters, there are more CC'ers out there that are more reliable as well.

When will you understand that Evelynn is **** tier? I have yet to see you or any other person utilize her after her nerf.

Although I love Ahri bunches, I think she deserves high Tier 2 since she is a solid champion but doesn't bring a lot to the table during the teamfighting phase. Since bruisers and warmogs are the new thing now, you want constant damage with a solid crowd control.

"Anivia wtf tier?
Kass "only" tier 2
Tf is the wtf tier of wtf tiers.
Ahri isn't really tier 1 rite now.
Karthus is too low imo.
You need wukong put into tier 1.
Apart from that a good list."

-Kass isn't even tier 1 material, his laning phase can be really weak with strong pushers and early harassers. (Orianna)
-TF is not "wtf tier of wtf tiers": probably for you, an easy lane pressure champion will demolish him. Not only that, but a simple teleport and passive bot lane focused on farming and trading consistently.
-Wukong mayyy be tier 1, looking at his kit, it's pretty strong. I guess people, including me haven't really tried him out yet to see how strong he is or not.
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TF is best mid atm, at high elo he has the best win rate.


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morgama doen't have to suicide. =0


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TF is best mid atm, at high elo he has the best win rate.


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He's the best in terms of team utility and controlling the game, but he generally isn't that good of a laner.

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Yea I was actually thinking about moving Aniv and eve, done.

Added WK, not gonna add poppy >_>

TF is not the best mid Xiao; his roaming is great, which is why he is the top of tier 1, but you can literally **** on him in laning phase with a lot of champs (especially the WTF tier guys) so then when he roams...he doesn't have much damage.

Eve IS still strong though IN CERTAIN situations.

Added Janna to mid tier 2. She is ok but sux in lane big time.

And Sion is def not tier 2 material, he is too easy to beat right now.

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@Rafalca, Lux has a pretty good early game if you can get combos off and harass with E + auto. Aniv is a bit hard laning phase pre-6 but she can still bully some people if you land good stuns and follow up with E. And she has amazing gank reception. TF, constantly harass with blues and reds + Qs and he receives ganks well too.

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