7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=Mooninites]They reduced the range at which he can riftwalk by an insane amount. It has more to do with the recent nerfs than it does to do with his skill ceiling[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=Mikuroo]just played against a zilean mid, his early - mid game damage seems stupidly strong and the 99% slow seems really strong too. I don't know how good he scales late but I'm assuming he's in a better place than he was before[/quote] His damage got actually nerfed.[/quote]

[quote=Darealone]Is [[gnar]] falling off or are people just learning how to play around him?[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]people learning to play vs gnar imo zilean seems good, time bomb has nuts area/zone control[/quote]

[quote=Blian]It was good to see [[Karthus]] in a pro game and actually against a [[Lissandra]].[/quote]

[quote=MrMad2000]I have a feeling that with [[Xerath]] being played a lot more in the professional scene now compared to early season 4 will make these siege compositions come back with champions like [[Caitlyn]] or [[Varus]] and assassins top lane like [[Yasuo]]. I think that teams are starting to realize that the meta is some-what shifting into early map control and teamfights and then dragging the game out for that baron + 5 dragon buff to win the game. It's all about these early game bullies who can then take that lead, take control of the map and enemies jungle and play it out until they finally destory the enemies nexus.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]How far has jarvan fallen off considering he lost so much armor i expect him to be alot lower in the jungle maybe even so low its not work playing him. He lost 13 armor at lvl 3 after he gets his 3 buffs and he gets no 10 armor to start jungle.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]jarvan is completely fine. his sustain already wasn't much to write home about, the armor loss isn't tthat bad. yasuos pretty bad atm[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=H4xDefender]jarvan is completely fine. his sustain already wasn't much to write home about, the armor loss isn't tthat bad. yasuos pretty bad atm[/quote] Umm i find it hard to believe he is unaffected after losing so much Armor. He must have dropped off from at least top jungler.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]His kit is basically untouched. Jarvan's fine...[/quote]