7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=MungoGeri][quote=VexRoth]Teams tend to have time to kite back from [[Depth Charge]]. You don't have that luxury with [[Glacial Prison]].[/quote] It seems like you're trying to use [[depth charge]] for initiation, but I don't think that's the right use for it. I usually use a Q hook to initiate with a quick W and E and then with the enemies' spell shields down, I cast my [[depth charge]] to the back -- usually on the adc. I usually get around 3 people popped up that way along with control on our team's primary target (usually adc).[/quote]

[quote=VexRoth][quote=MungoGeri][quote=VexRoth]Teams tend to have time to kite back from [[Depth Charge]]. You don't have that luxury with [[Glacial Prison]].[/quote] It seems like you're trying to use [[depth charge]] for initiation, but I don't think that's the right use for it. I usually use a Q hook to initiate with a quick W and E and then with the enemies' spell shields down, I cast my [[depth charge]] to the back -- usually on the adc. I usually get around 3 people popped up that way along with control on our team's primary target (usually adc).[/quote] Mentally reviewing my Naut games. Yeah that seeems like what was happening. Will try your suggested approach. Danke![/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]Depends on what you're doing. Sometimes you have a good dive/assassin comp and your R is the best lockdown, as long as they don't have something like Janna/Lulu. I've done a game that was really hard because they had a really good [[cassiopeia]], so our last tf I immediately R'd her, and both [[kassadin]] and [[ahri]] did they're best for her to not even have the chance to breathe and it worked. But you should always consider their disengage, per example[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]Sej already at 55% win rate.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]At the german ELS championship, we already saw [[Nautilus]], [[xin zhao]], [[zac]] and [[nunu]] in the jungle picked up, lets see who will get played as well. Also, [[sejuani]] pick/ban. Even [[jayce]] and [[ziggs]] mid.[/quote]

[quote=Blian]sorry i don't have pbe account so can't confirm that but people are talking about huge slow nerf on [[Sejuani]][/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][[Sejuani]] [list] [*][[Glacial Prison]] [R] - Slow reduced to 30% (down from 90%) [*][[Permafrost]] [E] - Damage increased to 60/95/130/165/200 (up from 60/90/120/150/180) [*][[Flail of the Northern Winds]] [W] - Enemy %max hp on-hit damage lowered to 4%/5.5%/7%/8.5%/10% (down from 4/6/8/10/12%)[/list] Go hit your ult now.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=NicknameMy][[Sejuani]] [list] [*][[Glacial Prison]] [R] - Slow reduced to 30% (down from 90%) [*][[Permafrost]] [E] - Damage increased to 60/95/130/165/200 (up from 60/90/120/150/180) [*][[Flail of the Northern Winds]] [W] - Enemy %max hp on-hit damage lowered to 4%/5.5%/7%/8.5%/10% (down from 4/6/8/10/12%)[/list] Go hit your ult now.[/quote]Meh not that big of a deal if you missed your ult you already fucked up big time. Dmg might hurt i still think hes gonna be good.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]You could still setup with that 90% slow, now it's kinda harder[/quote]

[quote=utopus]Sej ulti is such a free initiation currently. Your opponents just have to be in the general vicinity of your [[glacial prison]] in order for you to successfully initiate a team fight on them[/quote]