7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=NicknameMy]What a tier list gonna do if [[urgot]] is running wild on you![/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]Tank meta is real otherwise faker would not be playing chogath mid and urgot.[/quote]

[quote=utopus][quote=Cooper112]Tank meta is real otherwise faker would not be playing chogath mid and urgot.[/quote] Will that mean we can see [[vladimir]] rise in the tier list, since he won't be as easily bullied out of lane? <333333 pls say yes[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][[vladimir]] got played by Calitrlolz. [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAvDv5NXIAA5DJ3.jpg[/img] [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAqX9cHXEAArGUY.jpg[/img][/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][[katarina]] is officially a soloQ nightmare this patch, see everyone going guise - > echo and raping without actually needing her ult. Is [[shunpo]] counting the entire travel distance for Luden? Also seeing Diana's probably because R also seems to count. So you Q-R and you basically get two procs.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]Yeah I'm pretty sure blinks count. Still have yet to try Luden's for myself; maybe I'll have to try it out on Kat first. ;)[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]The only scenario ludens is better than dcap is when you consider single target pokes. In all other scenarios ludens is outshone by dcap[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]I'm pretty sure you underestimate the item. In Kata and Diana specially, since it gives them more movement speed and it let's them abuse the dash/blink.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-MiS1pfCwk LS's post with some math in it, granted the calculations done are unrealistic with Luden's being proc'd 5~8 times over 20 seconds compared to a DCap burst Luden's [b]might[/b] be good for small bursts on champions with gapclosers but even so you're basically forcing the champs to need to max range gap close for damage. Dcap is much more consistent in damage. I'm still vouching for Cap[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]The reason to use [[luden's echo]] is if you can totally abuse its movement speed and this way be near uncatchable. The only pro player doing that by now I saw is Power of Evil, and he does that with great success. Also a reason why he buys [[luden's Echo]] so often. http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/EUW1/27595593 And you even saw how this played out in his [[syndra]] game, in one teamfight, his positioning was unmatched and that was just because of [[luden's echo]] (combined with his skill, of course).[/quote]