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7.4 Tier List + AMA

Creator: H4xDefender February 20, 2014 5:06pm
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Something tells me "rundown" must not in fact mean "summary" like I assumed it did.


i mean this is patch 6.9

I'm pretty sure this is a rundown.

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my coaching sessions got cancelled due to replays breaking cuz of 6.9 so i got some games in. initial thoughts

brand: busted support, maybe mid as well. does insane damage

kennen: meh

veigar: meh

ziggs: meh

vlad: idk

malzahar: busted

when i release the rundown just note that its before i played any games so some things i say might seem odd
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post rework brand support > pre-rework brand support?
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i think post rework brand in general just ***** all over old brand. he does so much damage now its insane
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I've only seen one Brand so far and they basically handed bot lane to us for free. I feel like people would maybe have less trouble playing that **** in upper Silver/low Gold if they actually bought Sightstone before the 20 minute mark.
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I tried Cassiopeia. She's so obnoxious.

What I speculate that will be the best skill sequence for her:
Petrifying Gaze -> Noxious Blast -> Miasma -> Twin Fang

She also needs more movement speed (since she has a free slot thanks to her passive) so I speculate that Luden's Tempest will be a good item choice for her.

I think her core items are the same, but maybe I'll add some Morellonomicon after I build Tear of the Goddess, but I may be wrong here.
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don't like the way i articulated myself at all in hindsight but too late now i guess xd

if i do another one of these it will be way better, i feel like i should have read through it beforehand rather than live. think it gets a bit better at the end, i like this patch overall tbh.

@Silver no way can you max E last on cassio since its your spammable nuke, it should be first, or at LEAST second, your W is a one point wonder

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My only issue when it comes to Athene's being a support item is that nearly every frickin' support item already gives at least 10% CDR. If you're Karma, for example, and you get Watchers/Locket/Zeke's and then decide to get Athene's, you overcap your CDR, even with Intelligence . Also, I'm not sure why they didn't just change Ardent Censer to the item Athene's now is.
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Also, I'm not sure why they didn't just change Ardent Censer to the item Athene's now is.


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My only issue when it comes to Athene's being a support item is that nearly every frickin' support item already gives at least 10% CDR. If you're Karma, for example, and you get Watchers/Locket/Zeke's and then decide to get Athene's, you overcap your CDR, even with Intelligence . Also, I'm not sure why they didn't just change Ardent Censer to the item Athene's now is.

Imagine mid lane, where the glyphs that give the best stats are scaling 15% CDR, but now suddenly we can easily get 40% CDR through items without even counting Ionian Boots of Lucidity.

I need 3 different AP rune pages that only vary in glyphs depending on whether the items I suspect I'll need give CDR or not.

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And if I'm relying on getting 40% CDR through items, after completing Morellonomicon I'll be stuck at 20% until Abyssal Mask, which I might not want to rush right away, and if I'm building Zhonya's Hourglass as a 5th/6th item I'm going to be on 30% CDR until then. But if I take CDR glyphs to get higher CDR quicker, I'm going to end up overcapped and playing with no glyphs late-game.

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