7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=RottedApples][quote=Vapora Dark][quote=H4xDefender]its over an hour long[/quote] Something tells me "rundown" must not in fact mean "summary" like I assumed it did.[/quote] i mean this is patch 6.9 I'm pretty sure this is a rundown.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]my coaching sessions got cancelled due to replays breaking cuz of 6.9 so i got some games in. initial thoughts brand: busted support, maybe mid as well. does insane damage kennen: meh veigar: meh ziggs: meh vlad: idk malzahar: busted when i release the rundown just note that its before i played any games so some things i say might seem odd[/quote]

[quote=utopus]post rework brand support [u]>[/u] pre-rework brand support?[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]i think post rework brand in general just shits all over old brand. he does so much damage now its insane[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I've only seen one [[Brand]] so far and they basically handed bot lane to us for free. I feel like people would maybe have less trouble playing that crap in upper Silver/low Gold if they actually bought [[sightstone]] before the 20 minute mark.[/quote]

[quote=TheSilverDust]I tried [[Cassiopeia]]. She's so obnoxious. What I speculate that will be the best skill sequence for her: [[Petrifying Gaze]] -> [[Noxious Blast]] -> [[Miasma]] -> [[Twin Fang]] She also needs more movement speed (since she has a free slot thanks to her passive) so I speculate that [[Luden's Echo]] will be a good item choice for her. I think her core items are the same, but maybe I'll add some [[Morellonomicon]] after I build [[Tear of the Goddess]], but I may be wrong here.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender][embed=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d63tIrDDtig&] don't like the way i articulated myself at all in hindsight but too late now i guess xd if i do another one of these it will be way better, i feel like i should have read through it beforehand rather than live. think it gets a bit better at the end, i like this patch overall tbh. @Silver no way can you max E last on cassio since its your spammable nuke, it should be first, or at LEAST second, your W is a one point wonder sleeping now, will answer questions in morning[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]My only issue when it comes to Athene's being a support item is that nearly every frickin' support item already gives at least 10% CDR. If you're [[Karma]], for example, and you get Watchers/Locket/Zeke's and then decide to get Athene's, you overcap your CDR, even with [[Intelligence]]. Also, I'm not sure why they didn't just change [[Ardent Censer]] to the item Athene's now is.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=The_Nameless_Bard] Also, I'm not sure why they didn't just change [[Ardent Censer]] to the item Athene's now is.[/quote] We need trap items or it just isn't league :^)[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=The_Nameless_Bard]My only issue when it comes to Athene's being a support item is that nearly every frickin' support item already gives at least 10% CDR. If you're [[Karma]], for example, and you get Watchers/Locket/Zeke's and then decide to get Athene's, you overcap your CDR, even with [[Intelligence]]. Also, I'm not sure why they didn't just change [[Ardent Censer]] to the item Athene's now is.[/quote] Imagine mid lane, where the glyphs that give the best stats are scaling 15% CDR, but now suddenly we can easily get 40% CDR through items without even counting [[ionian boots of lucidity]]. I need 3 different AP rune pages that only vary in glyphs depending on whether the items I suspect I'll need give CDR or not. ????????? [img=http://i.imgur.com/8H17kYL.png] [img=http://i.imgur.com/Q0hOrWU.png] [img=http://i.imgur.com/5Ob7gCX.png] And if I'm relying on getting 40% CDR through items, after completing [[morellonomicon]] I'll be stuck at 20% until [[abyssal scepter]], which I might not want to rush right away, and if I'm building [[zhonya's hourglass]] as a 5th/6th item I'm going to be on 30% CDR until then. But if I take CDR glyphs to get higher CDR quicker, I'm going to end up overcapped and playing with no glyphs late-game. h e l p[/quote]