Aparently the costs to build tanky is going up...

[quote=throatslasher][quote=Darcurse] Doesnt matter, we are talking about champs who can be built full AD and do something with it, not how you see them. [/quote] You don't know how ad sion works.[/quote]

[quote=xIchi][quote=NicknameMy] [[Shaco]]? There is a reason why [[shaco]] is no threat late instead of [[Talon]]. [[tryndamere]]? Okay, the ult, but he can't do things that well like [[talon]]. [[Fiora]]? Meh, I would prefer real Juggernaut Omnislash. [[Rengar]]? Nerfed to shit.. [[Sion]]? A good [[sion]] gets [[warmog's armor]] or [[frozen mallet]] to increase the power of [[atma's impaler]]. [/quote] Complete bs. Trynda and Fiora can hardcarry way harder as Full ADs compared to Talon. Tryndamere can do everything Talon does better, as fast as Talon and saver. Fiora can just dish out tons of damage, and if given survive while getting kills.[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]Every time I see a Sion build full ad/crit, I die a little inside D:[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Except that [[tryndamere]] fails in the lane and is that way useless late. Also, [[tryndamere]] is easy cc-able and targetable, while [[talon]] has stealth.[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210]I'm confused. So they want people to ignore resistances all together? If % pen will apply before flat pen why would upping the cost of resists be appropriate? Essentially buying damage would be the way to go because any damage dealer lategame with the correct items would be a tank buster. Am I reading this wrong?[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=BusDriver210] I'm confused. So they want people to ignore resistances all together? If % pen will apply before flat pen why would upping the cost of resists be appropriate? Essentially buying damage would be the way to go because any damage dealer lategame with the correct items would be a tank buster. Am I reading this wrong? [/quote] Don't think you are. I think Riot are changing the meta to exactly what you just said. [quote]Essentially buying damage would be the way to go[/quote] Also lol wtf, you can't compare Talon to Trynd and Fiora, they're completely different. Talon is meelee and doesn't build carry, he just stacks AD. Think of him as a Diana that scales soley on AD. Do you start building AD carry items on her? Nope, you just build flat AD, like you would build flat AP. AD is Talon's AP. Attack Speed and Crit Chance don't need to be in his build at all, although crit chance isn't useless either. Just attack speed is useless, because you're using the AD for your spells, not for your auto-attacks. Whereas, you know, if you just stack BT's on Trynd and Fiora, you're doing it completely wrong. [quote=throatslasher]That's pretty much how I build talon. CD boots, last whisper, 3x BT, GA. Press R for penta.[/quote] Good to know my build is plat approved.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]The sole reason for the comarison was Nickname saying stuff like "Talon sole champ who can 100% AD" You can start clutching straws, but reasding that I dont think AD = stat but AD = AD dmg. (if we compare Talon to regular AD melees) In this term the mentioned champs are exactly the same since they also build "pure dmg". The difference between Talon and Tryn for example is that one is an AD caster and the other an AD autohitter. And yeah I do know abotu Sion's builds, but it was simply a "What can possible work, totally overthrowing the BS you just said" so stopping shitting bricks, better for your pants.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]My post was aimed at whoever said Tryndamere and Fiora do what Talon does but better.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher][quote=Acid Reigns] Every time I see a Sion build full ad/crit, I die a little inside D: [/quote] Rofl. That's pretty much how I build my sion. boots 3, zeal, zerk greaves, vamp, PD, IE, GA[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=throatslasher] [quote=Acid Reigns] Every time I see a Sion build full ad/crit, I die a little inside D: [/quote] Rofl. That's pretty much how I build my sion. boots 3, zeal, zerk greaves, vamp, PD, IE, GA [/quote] You know, those people don't build GA? And [[atma's impaler]] is a must on [[sion]].[/quote]