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Aparently the costs to build tanky is going up...

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I build Sion like I would any normal AD carry. Problem?
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wtf. bruisers already fall off lategame... im confused.

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EvilDice wrote:

wtf. bruisers already fall off lategame... im confused.



Because you know Assassins haven't been used at all except the ones that are OP(note:OP meaning basically VERY few cons)
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You know, those people don't build GA? And Atma's Impaler is a must on Sion.

I would disagree. Nice crit and all, but if I don't need the additional armor, I don't get it.

But then again, I only play ad sion on smurfs and I typically go something like 15-0 before a 20 minutes surrender, so...
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All those ppl come around playing the exact same Sion as anyone does simply with Zeals/PD as base (AD Steroids etc)... srsly why such ppl start screaming?


Thought someone here had the brains to come at me with an off-tank Sion build abusing the HP increase and that Ulti with greatly enhanced MR/armor?

Nonono... simply that PD build again
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Because you know Assassins haven't been used at all except the ones that are OP(note:OP meaning basically VERY few cons)

so let's nerf a very large champion pool instead of buffing a very small one. makes sense.

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so let's nerf a very large champion pool instead of buffing a very small one. makes sense.

That's not even plausible. Right now some assassins, such as Talon, can kill your AD carry in 1-2 seconds if he's ahead enough. if you buff him to compete with bruisers, how the hell are AD carries meant to stand a chance against assassins like him? My lvl 3 burst currently can also drop an enemy mid to 30-40% HP. How are you going to explain to him that I needed a buff?

I don't think this change is just to make assassins more viable, I just think they want the meta changed. In season 2 tanky compositions were the best. In season 3, they want damage dealing compositions to be the best. I don't think they have a problem with how it works right now, I think they just want it to be different for season 3. Imo anyway. Just the impression I receive from the changes they're planning to make.
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Darcurse wrote:

All those ppl come around playing the exact same Sion as anyone does simply with Zeals/PD as base (AD Steroids etc)... srsly why such ppl start screaming?


Thought someone here had the brains to come at me with an off-tank Sion build abusing the HP increase and that Ulti with greatly enhanced MR/armor?

Nonono... simply that PD build again

I've tried off-tank before. It just isn't that good. Without attack speed and crit, the 100% lifesteal just isn't that good, and you don't do much damage. Also, you heal your team for less. Your E gives you more HP which makes you ridiculously tanky for someone building pure AD, and your passive also makes you take less damage than you should, which makes you a tank, with no tank items. I've had 3k HP with a glass cannon build before. The reason you wouldn't build glass cannon on most champs is that they're not tanky enough to survive more than 2 seconds in teamfights. But Sion IS tanky enough to survive more than 2 seconds of teamfights, and then regains anything he lost via his ult. Why be unkillable with mediocre damage, when you can be unkillable while critting for 700 damage every 0.7 seconds?
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EvilDice wrote:

wtf. bruisers already fall off lategame... im confused.


Exactly how I feel Dice. I just don't understand why they think armor & magic resist prices are too low. All you have to do is build last whisper or void staff and resistances basically mean nothing. Now they want a assassin meta? I'm gonna wait for Riot's official changes/statements on the matter, but as of right now they are making no sense.
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...Why be unkillable with mediocre damage, when you can be unkillable while critting for 700 damage every 0.7 seconds?


Simply because pure dmg isn't unkillable even with Sion's HP+Passive.
Not to mention that he's a kite victim to the core.

(Not speaking for SoloQ ofc, if you take that as your base, I'll tell you how ****ing awesome AP Fiora/Talon/etc. are)


And getting all that HP for free and not doing anything with it.. dunno about you, but I'm not the crazy one here.
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