Ask a Diamond [Week 3: Top lane]

[quote=Darealone]So whenever I poop on my lane...I am always tempted to leave their turret up and keep them in the lane so that I can continue to poop on them. If I find that they roam then well...obviously I take the turret but if they keep coming back into lane then I am tempted to leave their turret up. Cause them exp loss...poop on them...yeah. Yay...nay? (Yeah I know...kinda prolongs the laning phase)[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=Darealone] So whenever I poop on my lane...I am always tempted to leave their turret up and keep them in the lane so that I can continue to poop on them. If I find that they roam then well...obviously I take the turret but if they keep coming back into lane then I am tempted to leave their turret up. Cause them exp loss...poop on them...yeah. Yay...nay? (Yeah I know...kinda prolongs the laning phase) [/quote] You're denying your team global gold and yourself a chunk of local gold by keeping the tower up. You should let the wave die to the tower if it would be a waste of time to sit there pushing the tower because it's too early to kill it (and you need to back). Otherwise, just break the tower, push up and roam. You can let the tower thin the wave out before you break it if you want just to deny more CS and prevent the other top laner from easily freezing.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100][quote=utopus] I seriously hate renekton with every fiber of my being. No champion should have a guaranteed safe & strong laning phase in 100% of all solo lane matchups [/quote] To be fair, the fact that he gets outscaled by pretty much every pick you see being played against him makes up for that at least a little bit. Getting chunked during a gank early (and losing immediate lane dominance as a result of it) is pretty damn frustrating on him when you're facing [[Trundle]]/[[Shyvana]]/[[Jax]] and know you [i]have to[/i] gain a significant advantage before the laning phase ends.[/quote]

[quote=I want to be a Blitzball]Any tips for playing [[Dr. Mundo]]? Every time I play him I get shit on by my enemy top. Also does heal work well on him? Seen some challenger/lcs do it[/quote]

[quote=Out Of Pancakes]Thoughts on BotRK instead of Hydra on [[renekton]] ?[/quote]

[quote=Khazem][quote=Out Of Pancakes] Thoughts on BotRK instead of Hydra on [[renekton]] ? [/quote] it's actually not bad and is a viable alternative in sitations where you feel you'd otherwise get kited [quote=I want to be a Blitzball] Any tips for playing Dr. Mundo? Every time I play him I get shit on by my enemy top. Also does heal work well on him? Seen some challenger/lcs do it [/quote] Dr. Mundo is a pretty weak laner and is supposed to lose most matchups in the current patch. His strength is his scaling but even that isn't that special anymore with champions like Jax/Irelia/Ryze getting more popular. I don't think Dr. Mundo is very good anymore.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=I want to be a Blitzball] Any tips for playing [[Dr. Mundo]]? Every time I play him I get shit on by my enemy top. Also does heal work well on him? Seen some challenger/lcs do it [/quote] Play passive till around level 9. Max cleavers and spam these to CS from a distance. You can't 1v1 anyone till later on in the game when you just get too tanky for them to handle. Heal is just OP right now and it can save your bacon quite well. It synergizes well with his kit (meaning he just wants to tank as much as possible and doesn't give a fuck about anything else) but it can be risky in lane to not have flash vs ganks etc.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]I mean, renekton doesn't really need the attack speed from BoRK, and he doesn't really have a lot of autoattack resets - certainly not compared to the likes of shyvana or jax. Hydra gives 3 times as much AD as BoRK, which means that getting a hydra would really make renekton's abilities hurt more, as well as significantly increasing his ability to push minion waves. Plus, the components of hydra give more relevant combat stats for top lane[/quote]

[quote=Khazem]yeah hydra is better in most cases, but botrk has its uses[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=utopus] I mean, renekton doesn't really need the attack speed from BoRK, and he doesn't really have a lot of autoattack resets - certainly not compared to the likes of shyvana or jax. Hydra gives 3 times as much AD as BoRK, which means that getting a hydra would really make renekton's abilities hurt more, as well as significantly increasing his ability to push minion waves. Plus, the components of hydra give more relevant combat stats for top lane [/quote] It procs 2/3 times instantly on [[ruthless predator]] however, which is also a reset. That plus the active is quite a lot of single target burst.[/quote]