holy balls vayne nerfs

[quote=Luther3000]Well it does give her 50 Armour and MR. Also I edited in more stuff after you read my last post. :P[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=Luther3000] I generally find that the best way to fight an Akali when you play AD is just try to get her out of her shroud, then right click her while kiting and hoping your team has some CC. Akali is actually pretty squishy and a fed AD can kill her fast if they can avoid taking too much burst. Running directly away is pretty much the worst thing you can do. Vayne's Q Stealth and E make her a master of kiting. Caitlyn standing on a trap is very situational and still won't delay someone as much as Vayne's Q + Stealth. Did I mention Vayne's Q has a two second cooldown, while Caitlyn's E is ten seconds? [/quote] any good caitlyn against a akali would stand on a trap.. u can trust that! Caitlyns e slows. Can't remember when akali was last picked in a tourney tbh(westrice did it 8 months back or so but i don't even think ppl ban westrice's akali anymore). My conclusion is: Vayne is OP, but more counterable than: Caitlyn, Tristana and Kog'Maw. Less counterable than Graves/Ezreal(since they are counterpicks in themselves.)[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Well, the same thing pretty much applies to any Tanky DPS or Assassin, not just Akali. I'm not saying she has the best/most escapes of any AD carry (though not far off). It's the fact that she [i]also[/i] has by far the most damage of any AD carry. Combined, it makes her a bit too strong.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]By far? no. That's like saying Udyr has the fastest clear time by far, but it's only 2-3 seconds faster than shyvanas. Or vayne has by far the lowest range of any viable ad-carry since it's not that much lower than graves and ezreals. Edit: i aggree she's too strong.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Pølsemanden] (he will deal equal damage to akali as vayne will so it's not all bad) [/quote] No. And to imply Kogmaw + Support is on par safety wise with Vayne + Support is just not even remotely true. [quote=Luther3000] And a fed AD can kill her fast if they can avoid taking too much burst Vayne's Q Stealth and E make her a master of kiting. Caitlyn standing on a trap is very situational and still won't delay someone as much as Vayne's Q + Stealth. Did I mention Vayne's Q has a two second cooldown, while Caitlyn's E is ten seconds? [/quote] All that ^ Vayne with items will 2-3 shot Akali if she gets pinned and go about her merry way. Caitlyn will not be able to 2-3 shot Akali and it's those half seconds of damage that determine the winner in the Assassin vrs Carry match ups. End game Vayne vrs end game Akali is easy. If vayne gets a pin, Akali dies for free. If Vayne has an Oracle Akali will probably die for free regardless. Vayne damage is just too mind numbing. [quote=Pølsemanden] Edit: i aggree she's too strong. [/quote] At the end of the day everyone agrees she's too strong. We might not 100% agree why but ye. >:P[/quote]

[quote=LaCorpse]I would be sad if this were true :([/quote]

[quote=cooper56]If shes nerfed she wont even be viable in ranked any more. She already has so many issues. Her dmg is is high for a reason and most time the people who rage are noobs who dont focus her in fights and she gets 20-2 or low elo games. - Squishy easily dies 2 abilities or if focused. - Very short attack range maybe even lost of all the ad carry's - Slow initial attack speed - Slow initial movement speed - Easily zoned - High mana costs low mana poool So if you nerf her dmg gg vayne no longer viable.[/quote]

[quote=Vavena]I noticed every time I buy a champ and start to love them then buy a skin that champ gets nerfed. Riot is out to get me...[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=cooper56] If shes nerfed she wont even be viable in ranked any more. She already has so many issues. Her dmg is is high for a reason and most time the people who rage are noobs who dont focus her in fights and she gets 20-2 or low elo games. - Squishy easily dies 2 abilities or if focused. - Very short attack range maybe even lost of all the ad carry's - Slow initial attack speed - Slow initial movement speed - Easily zoned - High mana costs low mana poool So if you nerf her dmg gg vayne no longer viable. [/quote] While many of your points are legit, the question is fair to ask, "Does she do toooo much damage?" I don't make a claim, but she's right around the border of too much and a lot.[/quote]

[quote=Vavena]@cooper56 I'm sorry but I don't think you know what you are talking about. Some of your statements don't make sense and are false.[/quote]