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How the *beep* do you counter Katarina Q_Q ?

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Okay, sorry about the head title.
I found the "How the *beep* do you counter Ezreal Q_Q?" thread amusingly cute.

But okay, let's get serious.
Good Katarinas are just scary, shunpo-ing around for jukes that even predictions won't help you land your skillshots.

Current AP mids are Ahri and Zyra.
My previous match with Katarina, instant gg mid lane.
Reason being I was too stubborn to get a Negatron Cloak and rushed Rylai's Crystal Scepter, ended up feeding 1/10 or 11.

I heard that when facing Katarina, you really don't have a choice but to farm seriously hard and go gank other lanes. I notice myself doing better against Katarina during clashes there's someone else taking the hits from Death Lotus. But on a 1v1 situation, the Shunpo just makes gauging ridiculously hard. Even if you don't gauge, she'll burst you down before anything else, which is kinda scary :s.

Advice anyone ?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Crows foot » September 1, 2012 10:09am | Report
Play champions with less skillshots. Annie, LeBlanc and Ryze does well. She is weak before lvl 6, abuse this. Annie is great with long Aa range and can harass hard.
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If you know it was because you were too stubborn to get negatron cloak, there's your answer.. =p
I don't play enough Zyra to know her katarina matchup well, but it should be easy enough if you bait her shunpo with E then QW her. She's got a very weak early game.

Ahri's definitely easier to beat Kat with. Get abyssal first, and save your E for when she jumps to you and ultis. Use W to harass her, shunpo won't help with it. If it's on cooldown, use your Q to harass her when she last hits. Stay away from the wave so you aren't hit by BB, and try to harass her to about 50% before 6.
Push the lane so you get 6 before her, and jump on her.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by MrCuddowls » September 1, 2012 10:10am | Report
Sion ***** on Katarina
Kassadin does too
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Khazem » September 1, 2012 10:11am | Report
Blood26 wrote:

Okay, sorry about the head title.
I found the "How the *beep* do you counter Ezreal Q_Q?" thread amusingly cute.


(huehue)

anyway on topic, you need something with hard CC to stop her ultimate basically.
Her early game is pretty weak so getting a champion that takes advantage of that works really well.

The biggest lane counters I can think of are LeBlanc, Sion and Kassadin.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by tehAsian » September 1, 2012 10:11am | Report
Push lane so she can't roam :P

I dunno how you lost as Ahri or Zyra.
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You had trouble with Ahri versus here? O.O

Mages with good CC usually do well versus her. With Ahri you pretty much just farm, pay attention to Q harass, and if she uses Shunpo use dem reflexes to W, E and Q, then move away.

Also, Ahri is a ganker, so it's kind of your job to move into other lanes.

I usually face Kata with Swain, and get to abuse her. Only real downside is that she'll be motivated towards ganking other lanes.
Diana can also do Katarina well if you're both around the same skill level.

Zyra requires more patience and always keeping a seed with you, in case she decides to Shunpo. Zyra's ulti sorta cancels kata's, but you're still bound to eat most of it.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Blood26 » September 1, 2012 10:19am | Report
tehAsian wrote:

Push lane so she can't roam :P

I dunno how you lost as Ahri or Zyra.


Dealing with mobility champions isn't my forte.
Fizz, Katarina and to a certain extent Kassadin.
I prefer dealing with positioning champions because it's something I'm much better at.
I used Zyra by the way, recently taken a liking to her.

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You're right, stubbornness was one of the answers.
I got overly confident of the fact that Zyra outzone her with her long range.

@FalseoGod
I'm pretty sure patience is key when playing against Katarina. My fear of being patient with Katarina is the fact that if she decides to jump on me and I cc her, most of the time, I end up dying first. Even if I blow my entire combo away, it usually isn't good enough to bring her hp down to 0. Which is why I get so fired up on landing my cc first.
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To correct a statement made by another. After the patch she is now only weak until level 4. At level 4 she can trade pretty well and still fly around with shunpo. And honestly the best way to beat a kat is to just be a better player. If you outplay her there is almost nothing she can do. I don't know what champs counter her other than the ones already listed cuz I am always the one playing her but I can tell you that if a kat is skilled enough she can win most match ups. However if you're at the same skill level then I have nothin I can say :p

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Crows foot » September 1, 2012 11:15am | Report
Katarinas excel against skillshots and if you keep your distance both Ahri and Zyra are easy to read. And if they are not skilled it's easy to bait their cc. On Zyra you can go all in after the cc is down. On Ahri you won't get the kill unless you know her ultimate and kiss is down. Against her as kata you farm, warn other lanes when she disappears and gank the other lane.

But yes a good kata can beat both. Ahri's harder.
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