PBE Notes

[quote=SpawnOfHell]No way. There is no way they're actually going through with making the ult 2000 range. It looks even worse in play than it does on paper. All my facepalms won't be enough if they actually make that change as it is. To think [[pantheon]]'s ult was once free global and he was once considered underpowered with the exact same kit he has now.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64][quote=drakon136] [quote=Khazem] Pantheon's ult nerf is perfectly fair imo. I didn't understand why his ult stayed at such a long range when Nocturne's had the same treatment a while ago. [/quote] You get both a visual indicator and time to escape while Pantheon ults, while Nocturne's is point-and-click and only has a tiny delay after its activation before you can dash. Nocturne's ult is also really strong with the global darkness, so that on top of its massive range was arguably too much. Oh yeah, and what sirell said too. [/quote] pantheons ult is AoE and more often than not is followed up with a point-and-click stun with a point-and-click execute when lower than 15% hp and has a passive that blocks an AA and some single target spells, nocturnes is single target and is followed by a delayed fear(which they recently nerfed AGAIN) and only has a short spell shield to stop anything from killing him see i can make one thing sound terrible and one thing sound op too P.S. you can escape nocturne ult if you get out of vision btw[/quote]

[quote=utopus]Even if it is mid-channel?[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]The only thing they've nerfed with Pantheon is the range on his ult, which means that you can pretty much do a Fiddlesticks on the enemy team and you're going to be as successful as if it was global. I mean the only problems if you're splitpushing. (which probably happens but idk shit about panth)[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh][quote=OTGBionicArm] Does anyone actually care about [[Miss Fortune]]? No one? Ok. I'm ok with this. [/quote] I posted a video about how happy I am with the changes. I CARE!!1!!11!1!!! @Luther: She will always die to gapclosers. That's what happens to immobile squishies. Her changes did make her more viable both in and out of lane imo. She's always been a lane bully, but now she has a better slow, her Q harass is more reliable and her W is now an even better dueling skill. Straight-up buff. She is still gonna need the right team comp though.[/quote]

[quote=Khazem][quote=drakon136] You get both a visual indicator and time to escape while Pantheon ults, while Nocturne's is point-and-click and only has a tiny delay after its activation before you can dash. Nocturne's ult is also really strong with the global darkness, so that on top of its massive range was arguably too much. Oh yeah, and what sirell said too. [/quote] fair point, I didn't actually realise how low 2000 range really is. It's going to be extremely hard to make proper use of that ult now at level 6 considering you kinda have to lead your targets with it.. RIP Pantheon[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh][quote=Khazem] RIP Pantheon [/quote] It's something so predictable, but in the end it's right, I hope you had the time of your life... cya mantheon![/quote]

[quote=jamespongebob][quote=luizdeh] [quote=OTGBionicArm] Does anyone actually care about [[Miss Fortune]]? No one? Ok. I'm ok with this. [/quote] I posted a video about how happy I am with the changes. I CARE!!1!!11!1!!! @Luther: She will always die to gapclosers. That's what happens to immobile squishies. Her changes did make her more viable both in and out of lane imo. She's always been a lane bully, but now she has a better slow, her Q harass is more reliable and her W is now an even better dueling skill. Straight-up buff. She is still gonna need the right team comp though. [/quote] Thank you. For caring. Actually, the nerf to the damage component of her W makes her laning phase a lot weaker. 6% AD is really little early game, and it's not like you'll have much use of the steroid early on. Shame they didn't drop the mana cost on her E.[/quote]

[quote=SpawnOfHell][s]It turns out that [[grand skyfall]] will have its channel time post-jump (as in when the circle appears for the enemy) reduced to 0.5 seconds. So yeah, it's not exactly going to be gutted after all. Thoughts?[/s] Edit: Nvm, it's casting time from 2 to 0.5. Thought it looked a bit ridiculous. Ignore this.[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh]If E had lesser mana costs it would be a bit overboard I think. It got increased duration, reduced CD, increased slow. Early laning is weaker, but it's not that bad. Play safe until you can dish some damage. As she stacks AD shit gets serious: Grievous Wounds. Less mana costs. Q targets dudes marked by W. 6% per stack up to five times that's 30% AD on each auto, by lv6 it's 36%, lv11 it's 42% and lv16 it's 48%. Hello [[leona]], would you like to lane with me forever? One thing I don't understand is the new ultimate. It now applies W's passive. If you attack someone 5 times and then hit R, it would hit for an extra 30% per wave on that dude or on everybody? If it's for everybody this is a very nice buff.[/quote]