Tanky supporters not tanky :s ? Dafuq.

[quote=Pølsemanden]Tell me more about how you know more about supporting than xpecial.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher]Are you referring to me? I never said I knew more. I probably know a comparable amount, although i'm light years behind pro supports at actually playing supports. I understand meta, and I've played with a lot of platinum players that main support. I also used to main adc for a year, so I understand quite a lot about bot lane. I know theory, but I'm ass in practice.[/quote]

[quote=JMastiff]Pølsemanden ment OP I guess. These answers were more than sufficient to cover this topic. The ammount of anger in OP post was quite disturbing to be honest though.[/quote]

[quote=RaNuD]I am baffled. How does Aegis+Shurelia+Randuin+Locket+Mercs dont make one tanky. I mean... what?[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=Blood26] So.. I got this off the net. http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=20638 One example of a tanky supporter, [[Leona]]. It pains me to see Xpecial label every darn female champs out in the LoL roster as Supports. Infuriates me even further that his entire masteries are based on Utility when Leona is supposed to be focusing on Defense. Literally a 0/21/9 built, even a 0/14/16 is better than a 0/4/26 built. Even in his AP carry guides, he doesn't acknowledge AP champions as AP carry, merely calling them Gankers >.> Enough about Xpecial, I know he's good, but he's generally not in my favor. Although I will admit he knows his stuff. Tanky supports on bot, how do you even become tanky when you have to let your AD carry farm ? I've seen tons of tanky supporters go bot lane, and ended up becoming a full-fledged supporter, with no tankiness at all. For an example, earlier on this evening, I had a Leona at bot, by late game, that Leona only had about 1.8k of HP, which is so meager when the rest of the APs are already on 2k health. Later on, an [[Alistar ] ]who can barely tank too, 2.5k, just a difference of 500 hp if compared with your typical AP mids. Means a whole lot of difference you might say, but when clashes happen, that Alistar will be running in circles trying to save his ass while the squishies actually take the hits for him. I'm curious as to why no tanky supporters even go for [[Warmog]]. I see almost all of them taking [[Shurelya's Reverie]], [[Aegis of the Legion]] and [[Locket of the Iron Solari]] plus a 5th item which is either a [[Randuin's Omen]], [[Banshee's Veil]] or [[Zeke's Herald]], and the last slot is always meant for wards. Are these for the purpose of making the tank seem more "inviting" ? In other words, you want your enemies to think that your tank is squishy or else the enemy team learns to ignore the tank ? What are the other reasons that no tanks ever go for Warmog anyway ? Anyone care to explain me to usage of [[Greater Quintessence of Avarice]] too ? The tradeoff for 1 gold every 10 seconds doesn't seem inviting to me. I rather opt for a health quint. One of the reasons I found on the net states that every bot supports should get Avarice Quints because bot laners are generally passive and hang out for a longer period of time doing nothing but trading pokes and harassments. I disagree with this. With good teamwork and having junglers coming in to gank, you should have bot lanes pushed up pretty well compared to Mid and Top Lanes. Then again, because I don't play support, I wouldn't have much to say, it is merely a speculation of mine. My purpose of opening this thread is due to the fact that I'm interested in picking up a role in tanking because no one Garena cares about protecting your carries. And I have my eyes set of Leona. But seeing how people build her with supportive item kinda makes me feel like dropping the idea of even tanking in the first place. I understand the term of tanky supporter, being tanky and bringing team utilities are one of them traits a tanky sp needs to have. But shouldn't every tank at the very least, have some high-hp providing item like a Warmog ? With Warmog, you can easily get 900hp, that's essentially squeezing in 2 items in to 1. I don't find auras beneficial, by then, aura or not. Most of your teammates will have items that boosts up certain stats that are important to them. Carrying aura items on you for the sake of your teammate is just like an extra icing topped on to the cake, whatever auras your team gets from you is just a bonus. You can't expect your supports to be providing with items that boosts up your stats because that's your own job in the first place. [/quote] Well develop and defend a new meta that allows supports to get farm without hindering their carrys. Then come back and say all this shit again, but with an actual idea opposed to some sort of QQ thread that really does nothing but shows your inexperience. The current meta believes in "0-farm" supports, where they let their carry CS so they (the carry) does their job mid/late game. As far as I know it might not be the most exciting, but it is efficient. When you come up with something better let me know.[/quote]

[quote=Minho]The "standard" support build gives you some resists, but not enough to consider you a tank. Sure, you may have 100+ armor/mr but you still can't tank a lot of damage.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=BloodRaine] The "standard" support build gives you some resists, but not enough to consider you a tank. Sure, you may have 100+ armor/mr but you still can't tank a lot of damage. [/quote] Wat? I beg to differ, but as [[Taric]] in ranked I've been confortably in the midst of the fray taking AoE damage and being targetted due to the fact that I was frontline with [[Jax]] and this didn't seem like an issue once I could get my Randuin's and activate it. Sure, I was no Dr. Mundo but it was sufficient to help ace with only one casualty and move for the win. You can't tank enough to disrupt and provide auras. That's what's necessary to help win a fight.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]If you are an aura support you need to be tanky (or stay behind), if you are an initiating support you need to be tanky.[/quote]

[quote=cooper56]Taric, Leona and ali are now the top tier support there all tanky.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]as an almost constant support player, I usually get (even rush, maybe) [[Randuin's Omen]] or [[Frozen Heart]]. The rest depends a lot on what is happening in the game and what support i'm playing, but since my most frequent picks for support are [[Blitzcrank]], [[Leona]] and [[Taric]], this is pretty much it.[/quote]