UNDERSTANDING CHAMPION ROLES TANKS? AD? AP?...

[quote=NicknameMy]And also every spell applies spellvamp until there stand, that it applies on-hit, then it applies lifesteal.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=NicknameMy] And also every spell applies spellvamp until there stand, that it applies on-hit, then it applies lifesteal. [/quote] Either I'm misunderstanding you or that's not totally true. You could say that [[Mark of the Assassin]] applies on-hit, but it uses spellvamp, not lifesteal. [[Impure Shots]] and [[Nether Blade]] are on-hit and don't apply lifesteal either. Damage from autoattacks=lifesteal Magic damage from spells=spellvamp And I believe (not entirely sure) that physical damage spells do not apply lifesteal effects. Similarly, magic damage on-hit procs like [[Bio-arcane Barrage]] do not apply spellvamp (Though I think [[Toxic Shot]] does....).[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]No. You are confused. First of all Impure shots isn't anything on hit, it adds AS and the magic damage is not really a spell, just a passive. Same with Nether Blade, it just modifies your attack, the bonus damage from both of those spells would be spell vamp but the normal attack lifesteal. If a spell SAYS it APPLIES ON-HIT EFFECTS than it uses life steal... A spell has to SAY IT IS PHYSICAL DAMAGE to use lifesteal, that is different from it SCALING with AD For instance, [[Parrrley]] SAYS IT APPLIES ON HIT EFFECTS, so even tho it is a spell it would use lifesteal, not vamp.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Double up also applies on-hit effects on both of it's hits. I'm unsure if it counts for 2 attacks for the purposes of Rageblade or SotD though.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] No. You are confused. First of all Impure shots isn't anything on hit, it adds AS and the magic damage is not really a spell, just a passive. Same with Nether Blade, it just modifies your attack, the bonus damage from both of those spells would be spell vamp but the normal attack lifesteal. If a spell SAYS it APPLIES ON-HIT EFFECTS than it uses life steal...[/quote] Okay, I did misunderstand the meaning of on-hit effect. I thought he meant the spell was on-hit, not that it applied on-hit effects. :S [quote]A spell has to SAY IT IS PHYSICAL DAMAGE to use lifesteal, that is different from it SCALING with AD[/quote] I do know that particular difference. Though I'm pretty sure only on-hit applying spells like [[Parrrley]] apply lifesteal, but not other physical spells like [[Dragon Strike]]. [/quote][/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=PsiGuard] [quote=wRAthoFVuLK]A spell has to SAY IT IS PHYSICAL DAMAGE to use lifesteal, that is different from it SCALING with AD[/quote] I do know that particular difference. Though I'm pretty sure only on-hit applying spells like [[Parrrley]] apply lifesteal, but not other physical spells like [[Dragon Strike]]. [/quote] Only spells that apply on-hits will do life steal. Physical damage like [[Dragon Strike]] will not. It will go off of spell vamp.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=Lugignaf] It will go off of spell vamp. [/quote] WHAT?? That's news to me.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]It's weird but, that's how it works I think. I know smite works off spell vamp. It's fun to be Lee Sin and heal a ton of damage off a camp because I know how to manage smite.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Lugignaf] It's weird but, that's how it works I think. I know smite works off spell vamp. It's fun to be Lee Sin and heal a ton of damage off a camp because I know how to manage smite. [/quote] Which is why one of the reasons that Mordekaiser had a bug, where if you hit one of his abilities and immediately smited, you would get like 150 extra shield :S, his passive is actually modified spell vamp.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]Actually, not sure about physical damage abilities... I think it's lifesteal but not sure...[/quote]