Genocide, USA, etc.

[quote=Canoas][quote=Acid Reigns] It's the same thing with birthdays. Why the hell does it matter? It's just a day, it's not anything special. I can understand celebrating birth, and I can understand mourning death, but why make it a random pointless tradition to continuously celebrate/mourn on every anniversary? It doesn't make sense! [/quote] Well, birthdays simply mark one more year you've been alive. That makes sense to me, not being dead yet is a reason to be happy.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]@Canoas There's almost never a reason to make a point by making a rude blanket statement, that's all.[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]Why not celebrate every day then? You should celebrate being alive by living your life, not by eating cake, and getting shitfaced once a year.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64][quote=Canoas] It was to continue the conversation with Fox Rage, but then toshabi started derailing and some other idiots joined in. [/quote] so why not just PM him instead of making a thread and making it a big deal? cuz you know you said this thread was only to continue the conversation with a single person, it would just be easier to PM the single person[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi][quote=DillButt64] [quote=Canoas] It was to continue the conversation with Fox Rage, but then toshabi started derailing and some other idiots joined in. [/quote] so why not just PM him instead of making a thread and making it a big deal? cuz you know you said this thread was only to continue the conversation with a single person, it would just be easier to PM the single person [/quote] Spoiler alert: He knows.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Canoas] @Mooninites The markets have a private agenda. The EU bought our debt and now we're paying off our debt to the EU with a pretty high interest rate thanks to the shitty markets. That's how it works, the EU doesn't lose money because of us. I family working in the EU parliament and commission in pretty high places. I went to Belgium 2 months ago and visited their respective workplaces. Whatever your learning is wrong because I have information directly from the EU about Portugal's and Greece's crisis. But hey, I accept that bet. How much is it? 10$? 100$? 1000$? Just name it. We'll see if Portugal pays the debt or not. But remember, once we do so do you. @Mooninites The chinese yen is the strongest because China simply cheats. The Euro is still stronger than the dollar though, and will always be. It has fallen quite badly this past year but is now regaining it's strength. Sorry, but there's really nothing you can say against facts. [/quote] Markets don't have a private agenda the agenda is based off of demand. If you actually understood economic theory you would realize this. The EU is buying your debt, which is essentially it's own debt. I'd be willing to take that bet, I bet portugal defaults on it's debt before it pays it back. And the EU is a joke, everyone knows they chase their tails pretending like all is well. The Chinese yen is artificially deflated by the Chinese government. This means they devalue their own currency. So they're actually making their currency weaker, which is why it isn't the strongest, that's how they cheat, they don't artificially inflate their currency to make it appear to be worth more it's actually the opposite. It's hard to say you have the facts on your side when you don't even understand what's going on [quote=Mowen] Mooninites threw the first jab in my opinion, by bringing up that Canoas doesn't know what it's like to work. [/quote] this debate has been going on over 10 pages in 2 different threads, canoas has insulted many people and made ludicrous claims and somehow me finally posting on the 6th page was the "first jab". I mean come on now, you can say I'm too harsh or that I come off as an ass, but to sit here and say I started this mess when it's been brewing and going on long before I got involved is pretty insulting[/quote]

[quote=Phil Collins]Honestly nobody cares about what you post Canoas. What was the point of this thread anyway? Is arguing about each others economy really necessary here?[/quote]

[quote=NinjaGinge]this is..... stil going?................ O____________O[/quote]

[quote=Fox Rage][quote=Canoas] @Fox Rage As you said, a genocide is the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. The colonial wars weren't genocide, it wasn't the deliberate and systematic extermination, it was trying to maintain hold of the colonies against the rebellions, this happened in Portugal as well but obviously the civilians here had no military power, unlike Angola's, so there were barely any deaths. The UPA existed, it's very well documented. Portugal's income in angola was from slave trading during the 16th and 17th century, not in the 1960s (seriously, wtf?). Slavery is not extermination no matter how you look at it. The colonial war took place between 1961 and 1974, during the dictatorship. What I just said is a fact. It doesn't matter what you believe in, history cannot be changed. [/quote] Colonies were made so that the population living there would work to increase the major country's income. At the same time, that major country is trying to assimilate the colonies population. By forcing the population of your colony to learn your language, you force them to forget about theirs slowly. Put every single sign in your countries language, teach your language at school, instead of theirs. Assimilate kids and you assimilate the whole population. By having an assimilated population, you have a population that is dependant on you, since all they know is what you thought them. Assimilation is the destruction of a population, rebuilding it afterward to look as much as possible to yourself. Assimilation is a type of genocide. Slavery is taking a whole population and putting them into forced labour until they die. Another type of population anihilation. Another type of genocide. Mass murder of the population obviously destroy them. Another type of genocide. They all have 1 point in common. The destruction of a whole population, wich is the definition of a genocide. A genocide isn,t necessarily an extermination (WW2 is a good exemple), it can be an assimilation (an exemple of failed assimilation would be Quebec in Canada) or a mass slavery (Angola is a good exemple). They were even slaves in the early 1900s. And in some part of the world (southern USA is a good exemple), even until the mid-1900s. The colonial wars is the Europe invading every part of the world to increase their power, by creating colonies and using it as a way to increase your income. It lasts from the early 1500 to the early 1900s, when Europe stopped spreading. The Angola genocide did not happen during the colonial wars, since it happened in the mid-late 1900s. Even after the colonial war ended, Africa was pretty much all owned by Europe. It is only in 1992, with the end of the appartheid, that Africa became independant.[/quote]

[quote=Fox Rage]And as I said earlier guys, stop it with the insult. This is a debate, not some god damn bitching contest. If you can't have a civilized discussion, feel free to leave the thread. Even if I disagree with Canoas, it doesn't mean that I don't respect either him, or his opinion. I wouln't bother writing all this stuff if I didn't respect him. As I said previously, we all live in free countries for christ's sake. We all have the right to believe whatever we want. Respect others opinion if you want them to respect yours.[/quote]