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Why you should vote for Obama

Creator: Searz October 6, 2012 3:04pm
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Mooninites wrote:
you can rag on america and it isn't butthurt, but when i expose what a fraud the EU is i'm butthurt

nice double standard, seems in line with most mobafire thinking

The problem is that you didn't expose any fraud. All you did was make some vague reference that no one here can explain and refuse to say what you're talking about.
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so basically this is how it works. I know critical analysis isn't your strong suit.

You rag on America for having a two party system and being somehow less democratic then whatever the hell EU state you live in, for you it is portugal, I'm pretty sure yuki is from germany no?

I guess you have to be totally oblivious to what's going on in the EU to really think that you're more democratic the America. I guess you could ignore the fact that Jose Manuel Barroso isn't an elected official, I guess you could ignore that every legislator within the European Union is not an elected official and there are no means for european peoples to remove them. I suppose you could choose to ignore that Jose Manuel Barroso has publicly said he hates populism (better known as democracy) that the EU has forcibly ignored european democracy with the lisbon treaty and pretty much put Greece in a straight jacket. I suppose you could ignore the Greek people overwhelmingly demanding their freedom from the EU, and despite all this Angela Merkel says that it wouldn't be in the Greeks best interest to leave the EU, somehow as a German woman she knows best for Greece.

But no really, we don't have democracy in America, European is that beacon in the darkness
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HAHAAHAHA.. You're funny...

The european's commission president rotate's between countries. When it was time for a Portuguese president we elected Jose Barroso, who was our prime minister at the time. The EU legislators are elected every 5 years, each country choose the voting system (I think). Jose barroso belongs to the Portuguese democratic party. Populism IS NOT the same as democracy. EU didn't put Greece is a straight jacket, the EU helped Greece with their public debt with the promise that they changed their reform in order to pay up that debt. Greece didn't so now Greece is being pressured into leaving the EU. If Greece leaves the EU then the rest of the EU is pretty much safe, but Greece is completely screwed because now they won't have any way to pay their dept. Oh and the Lisbon treaty does not ignore European democracy in any way, if anything it strengthens it, but since explaining the treaty to you would require quite a bit of effort I'll leave you the wikipedia page.

It's so amusing how you write with such confidence even though you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
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I'd like denmark to gtfo of EU.

Buut so far there hasn't been a majority in the government for progressing towards that. Sadly.
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So where do color wheels fit into this ******ed political debate?
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Toshabi wrote:

So where do color wheels fit into this ******ed political debate?

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BOOM!!!!!

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Canoas wrote:

HAHAAHAHA.. You're funny...

The european's commission president rotate's between countries. When it was time for a Portuguese president we elected Jose Barroso, who was our prime minister at the time. The EU legislators are elected every 5 years, each country choose the voting system (I think). Jose barroso belongs to the Portuguese democratic party. Populism IS NOT the same as democracy. EU didn't put Greece is a straight jacket, the EU helped Greece with their public debt with the promise that they changed their reform in order to pay up that debt. Greece didn't so now Greece is being pressured into leaving the EU. If Greece leaves the EU then the rest of the EU is pretty much safe, but Greece is completely screwed because now they won't have any way to pay their dept. Oh and the Lisbon treaty does not ignore European democracy in any way, if anything it strengthens it, but since explaining the treaty to you would require quite a bit of effort I'll leave you the wikipedia page.

It's so amusing how you write with such confidence even though you actually have no idea what you're talking about.


really? because my major is in comparative politics with an emphasis on european politics and economics. I think I know a lot more about it than you probably do, even if you live in Portugal.

I don't think you really understand because when you say things like "greece is being pressured to leave the EU" it's actually quite the opposite. If Greece leaves the EU it will go bust. The EU has 444 billion eruos invested in Greece, if it leaves you're out 444 billion eruos. Just stop a minute and think about that. It's quite hilarious that you think the EU will be safe by Greece leaving, I suppose you don't even realize that EU has an inconceivable investment in Greece. I mean you're so uneducated you don't even realize that the people you consider political acquaintances want and need Greece to stay in the EU.

I guess I shouldn't have expected you to understand anything in context to the Lisbon Treaty, but if you actually were educated in the slightest (good thing you're getting your masters in cultural studies right?), you would have understood that the Lisbon Treaty is the second treaty, the first was the EU constitution which was rejected. Coincidentally, they took that same constitution, called it the Lisbon Treaty and when it was rejected in a referendum by Ireland, France, and Netherlands; they made each country hold another referendum and in the case of Ireland, another referendum until they got the results they wanted. That isn't democracy, that isn't freedom. They bullied those nations into the treaty. And worse yet, the treaty allows the EU to control and legislate virtually every aspect of your life. I suppose you have a bright future in comedy give the fact that you do no meaningful research on your own and just throw a wikipedia article on here that you probably didn't even read.

But you can brush that all aside because I don't think anyone with even the slightest education on the EU would take anything you just wrote seriously.
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i'm voting for obama, simply because mitt romney wants to take away porn.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/susannahbreslin/2012/09/13/mitt-romney-porn/



also since democrats are closer to my view on politics than republicans are, although i would of voted for paul in a heartbeat if he was nominated. ****ing republicans.
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@Caucheka
Lol.. On a related note, pornhub donates money to fight breast cancer every time someone watches a boobs video. Their campaign is called "save the boobs". Just wanted to let you all know that porn saves lives as well.

@Mooninites
Ah.. so cute.. You're like a little baby who's learning to talk. You make sounds that seem like words but in reality it's just gibberish.

The best thing for both EU and Greece is if Greece stays and accepts the austerity programs in order to pay off the debt. That is not what was happening, Greece's deficit did not decrease one bit. Greece still needs more cash or the state coffers will soon have nothing and the country will then be in deep ****. The EU is refusing to lend any more unless they accept the reforms. The problem is that a country can't get kicked out from the EU, they have to choose to quit, so they're being pressured to leave if the deficit doesn't start decreasing. Those are the only two options, Greece stays and accepts the reform or Greece doesn't accept it and they have to go.

Why didn't you google Lisbon treaty? It would have been so much easier for you to learn by yourself instead of relying on others to teach you.
No, no one was bullied into accepting the treaty. France and the Netherlands rejected the first treaty to propose changes to the treaty of Rome and make the charter of fundamental right legally binding. They didn't reject the treaty because they were against it, they rejected it because they want MORE changes.
On the treaty of Lisbon Ireland rejected at first because unlike other countries Ireland held an referendum. Obviously what happened was that not all the population was fully educated on the subject and doubted if it would be good or bad, so they rejected it. On the second referendum 65% of it was for it and Ireland finally ratified the treaty.

Maybe you're the one who should drop out of college to pursue comedy. You're getting your *** kicked in a forum from a guy with just some general knowledge from the news and googles to fill up the blanks, your major on european politics doesn't seem to be worth much.
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