Brusier top, why I should skill defense, not...

[quote=DuffTime]Heh. Noooot gonna lie I haven't wrote the guide because I don't want it to become a thing... LOL.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][img=http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6391/choe.png] Is that right for the first items of cho? It shows you, what to build if you are up against AP-carry, Bruiser that deals magic or minor physical dmg or ad-carries/ad-bruisers.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Not gonna lie I dunno wtf I'm looking at lol. I think so?[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]It is the build order at the first items for ad/as cho up against AP/Balanced/AD^^ 3 different routes for 3 different enemy types in your lane. AP is AP-carry and solo tops like [[ryze]] Balanced are champs like [[yorick]],[[olaf]],[[udyr]],[[singed]], bruisers that not deal big fucking physical damage and also deal some magic damage. AD is AD-carrys and champs like [[garen]],[[riven]],[[talon]], etc...[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Luther3000] There's not really any other choice for supports.[/quote] Exactly, and that's sad..[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=DuffTime] So yes while the math may incline that other alternatives are superior in this instance, Wealth is still a strong choice on supports ^_^[/quote] Not strong, more like the only thing they can choose..[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]Dude what is that zeal for. better get Wit's End for damage in midgame, Triforce takes way too long to build after two big items and lvl2 boots and is more situational than core on cho. would just get it in like ultra late game or when you are stomping way too hard.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][embed=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ8QI_7puvU#!] Well, look at this.^^ Is the build actually viable or not?[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]I'm no Cho'Gath expert but I either rush Frozen Heart or FoN after catalyst depending on who I'm up against. Then I'm going to look for their main sources of damage and get the fitting resistances or damage. Phreaks Build is pretty much exactly what I usually go for.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]BTW: Why you actually start with [[rupture]] instead of [[feral scream]]? At most ganks, you are lvl 2 and [[feral scream]] can zone better at lvl 1.[/quote]