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[quote=DuffTime]Buying catalyst for sustain is an error. Building resistances and using passive for sustain is better ^_^ 2.7k HP is not very tanky, massing resistances is not as strong as getting a good mix of HP and resistances for soooo many reasons.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=DuffTime] No that's including Phage/triforce you'll be around 2700 or 2800. If you trade FoN for BV you'll be around 3k-3.1k. What items would you trade on your build for the RoA? You're not gonna have 200 armor/MR if you buy RoA. If you care to do some number craft~ http://leaguecraft.com/builder/Cho'Gath [/quote] http://leaguecraft.com/builder/Cho%27Gath/?items=28,64,70,11,29,100&runes=64,64,64,64,64,64,64,64,64,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,112,112,112,112,112,112,112,112,112,53,53,53&masteries=0000000000000000003304101000332011030400001000000&level=18 Only way I could get 3k+ hp and 200 mr/armor, and still get like 1.4k AtS[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I bought an early [[negatron cloak]] in my lane vs [[shaco]]+[[evelynn]], because [[shaco]] always [[Two-Shiv Poison]]'s me.^^ Then I continued with [[mercury's treads]]. After that I bought [[frozen heart]] because eve went OP and chose AD.[/quote]

[quote=Khazem]Wat? Building Catalyst allows you to be much more agressive with your mana usage as well as giving you alot of extra sustain AND it also makes you very tanky early on. 2.7k health is plenty, even though I'll always end up with around 3k. Why would you build more than you need? The only time I would ever build Warmog's on Cho is when I'm dying too fast and it's causing my team to lose fights, even though I never ever had the need before in any Cho game ever.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]It is actually a bit more risky, because if you get 1 time killed, you loose so much survivability.^^ With [[Warmog's Armor]], you could actually try [[trinity force]]+[[phantom dancer]]. Should be funny aswell.^^[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=NicknameMy] It is actually a bit more risky, because if you get 1 time killed, you loose so much survivability.^^ [/quote] Wat.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]You loose 450 HP, and that is very much HP if you don't buy any HP item.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Temzilla] Only way I could get 3k+ hp and 200 mr/armor, and still get like 1.4k AtS [/quote] http://leaguecraft.com/builder/Cho'Gath/?items=61,70,21,55,64,11&runes=64,64,64,64,64,64,64,64,64,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,95,95,95&masteries=0000000000000000003304101000332011030230000000000&level=18 One build that's better than that one, if you really want the high MR. http://leaguecraft.com/builder/Cho'Gath/?items=61,70,21,55,64,28&runes=64,64,64,64,64,64,64,64,64,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,112,112,112,112,112,112,112,112,112,53,53,53&masteries=0000000000000000003304101000332011030400001000000&level=18 Another build that's built more aggressive! I like this build even better. A good solo top lane build! http://leaguecraft.com/builder/Cho'Gath/?items=61,70,76,36,16,28&runes=64,64,64,64,64,64,64,64,64,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,95,95,95&masteries=0000000000000000003304101000332011030230000000000&level=18[/quote]

[quote=Khazem]also, using my build with 6 [[feast]] stacks, you'll have exactly 3030 health, not 2.7k :o[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Khazem] Wat? Building Catalyst allows you to be much more agressive with your mana usage as well as giving you alot of extra sustain AND it also makes you very tanky early on. [/quote] Glacial shroud says hi. Mana and resistances = better sustain. Catalyst doesn't really make you tanky. You're not taking advantage of your ult's bonus HP by just adding more HP. You take advantage if your ult with resistances.[/quote]