Brusier top, why I should skill defense, not...

[quote=DuffTime]Actually I'm rushing the armor and the mana and the CDR just happen to come with it :) Frozen heart is the biggest armor item with the best stats that we can use (Way better than Thornmail) and so that's why we're rushing Glacial shroud on that build. But yeah as a solo laner with Cho I generally rush FH and a Nega cloak. From there is where my build starts to vary but it's all relative.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]BTW: For 3 [[Honor Guard]], it is as effective as 4.5 points in [[indomitable]] at 200 armor and mres.^^ To show some reality. And that for a T5 mastery, god no... But, idk if [[siege commander]] is better than one point in [[honor guard]].[/quote]

[quote=Searz]No Nick, Indomitable is FLAT damage. You can't really compare them. But you can compare MR and Armor to Honor Guard. (Honor Guard is SHIT)[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Yeah well generally speaking I take them both :P Tons of damage mitigation. It just depends on the tank. (They could buff it a bit but I still love my damage reduction)[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=NicknameMy] But, idk if [[siege commander]] is better than one point in [[honor guard]]. [/quote] Searz?^^ It is actually [[siege commander]] vs [[honor guard]] vs [[mercenary]] vs [[vigor]].[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]It's not comparable, but yeah it's a higher impact point, of course. Siege commander is great.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, then you don't need [[honor guard]] at all.^^ [masteries=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=0-3-3-0-4-0-2-1-0-0-1-3-3-0-0-1&tree3=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&v=2] Back to topic: Offense tree would only work with AP-Cho, not on-hit Cho.^^ But on-hit cho could also go 30/0/0 xD. [masteries=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=1-2-2-0-4-4-0-0-1-1-0-0-3-4-3-4-1&tree2=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&v=2][/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Depends on the champion. I wouldn't rule it out as an option.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Weeeeell.. [[Honor Guard]] might be the worst mastery in the game. So pretty much anything is better. Other contenders for the worst mastery in the game are [[Mercenary]] and [[Evasion]].[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Evasion is just horribad. Honor Guard is useful on a full tank.[/quote]