Building two spirit stone upgrades on a jungler?

[quote=Satella][quote=Alcasea] then getting a belt next [/quote] [[Spirit of the Ancient Golem]] builds from a [[Kindlegem]] now.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]I don't think it's any good on Lee Sin lol... When you get Lizard you become squishy as fuck and with more investments into kindlegem why not just get a ruby sightstone and work on your aegis? It doesn't do much for your team. Not sure on other mana champs but I seriously think its dumb.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Embracing] I don't think it's any good on Lee Sin lol... When you get Lizard you become squishy as fuck and with more investments into kindlegem why not just get a ruby sightstone and work on your aegis? It doesn't do much for your team. Not sure on other mana champs but I seriously think its dumb. [/quote] [[ruby sightstone]] is 600 gold more and it doesn't provide CDR that [[Kindlegem]] has. All in all going for [[Spirit of the Ancient Golem]] gives you more effective stats than a [[Ruby Sightstone]] + [[Emblem of Valor]] (just taking ~600g worth of stats from [[Aegis of the Legion]]). But I'd agree with not building [[Spirit of the Elder Lizard]][/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty]Lee sin, shouldn't build either elder lizard OR ancient golem. The point of Lee Sin is to be an early ganking/counter-jungling monster and transition into a cc/support/tank late game. Double Jungle items aren't bad because you are spending 4k gold on a duplicate unique passive, double jungle items are bad because you are spending 4k gold on JUNGLE ITEMS. Lets use Lee Sin as the example. For nearly the SAME gold as Ancient golem, you get a madreds AND a locket. Locket does more for your team and helps lee Sin transition into the role he's supposed to play late game. Don't build double jungle items, there are ALWAYS better alternatives. I did a pretty good blog post that tells you what item each jungler should build. -Lasty[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty]To expand on this, if you have a mediocre early game and you build Elder Lizard & Ancient Golem, you're going to be running around at the 15-20 min mark with no bonus resists. The carries will literally shred you.[/quote]

[quote=Joshified]I personally was just tinkering with the idea, it seems like it wouldn't be a very effective way to build any champ past mid game. Might check out that blog post of yours two, you seem to know your jingle jangle.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]nah lasty is a noob at jungling he didnt even put karma on his list of junglers[/quote]

[quote=MyRepublic][quote=DillButt64] nah lasty is a noob at jungling he didnt even put karma on his list of junglers [/quote] Yeah jeez.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]just did this with trundle. dear god was i a fucking gank monster.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Ruby sightstone is insane for the mobility mid game its ridiculous it's core on Lee I'm sure. Diamond, insec, and pretty much every pro jungler runs it because they know its potential.[/quote]