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Creator: Svingas March 13, 2012 7:30pm
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Alright, I just played my second game practicing with Fiora and I found a build that looks and sounds pretty nice.

Madred's Bloodrazor, Mercury's Treads, Wit's End, The Bloodthirster, Frozen Mallet, and Atma's Impaler

What do you all think of this build? My main worry is a lack of armor penetration, but I am not sure if that is necessary on her or not. I get 21+10% from runes and masteries.

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Verrry very bad. On-hits are mostly a gimmick beyond Frozen Mallet, and atmas is a nono on Fiora. You want a build that's a lot more AD focused; something like this:

start as needed for lane
Boots of Speed
2x Doran's Blade
your boots upgrade choice
The Brutalizer
Vampiric Scepter
Phage
Youmuu's Ghostblade
B. F. Sword
Frozen Mallet
The Bloodthirster
Phantom Dancer
Last Whisper
Infinity Edge
Phantom Dancer
(last two items replacing youmuu's and boots respectively)



That's what I use anyway.
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RCIX wrote:

Verrry very bad. On-hits are mostly a gimmick beyond Frozen Mallet, and atmas is a nono on Fiora. You want a build that's a lot more AD focused; something like this:

start as needed for lane
Boots of Speed
2x Doran's Blade
your boots upgrade choice
The Brutalizer
Vampiric Scepter
Phage
Youmuu's Ghostblade
B. F. Sword
Frozen Mallet
The Bloodthirster
Phantom Dancer
Last Whisper
Infinity Edge
Phantom Dancer
(last two items replacing youmuu's and boots respectively)



That's what I use anyway.


Are you serious? With Fratma's she has like 150 AD due to her passive on her W. Your build has NO RESIST. You will die immediately to CC, or focus fire. On hits are not a gimmick beyond Frozen Mallet. Besides, the 42 magic damage from Wit's End isn't even the reason to buy the item, it's for AS and MR.

4% of max HP is 4% of max HP. Whether it does 40 damage or 400 damage, is still is 4%. That's 25 hits for 100% of max HP.

Have you even tried his build? Granted, I don't use the exact same setup either, but that doesn't mean you have to trash it.

Assuming your final build will look like this:

Frozen Mallet
The Bloodthirster
Phantom Dancer
Phantom Dancer
Last Whisper
Infinity Edge

Here is the cost: 18,060 gold! Congratulations, you have succeeded in creating a practically unachievable build!

That doesn't even make up for the fact that you spend money on Doran's Blades, Boots of choice, and Youmuu's Ghostblade.

She has 35 built in AD and 120% built in AS. Then why the hell do you need to go full AD? You don't, that's the correct answer, it's much better to go tanky DPS.

I somehow doubt the ability to win consistently with your "build" unless you get enemy teams that are ******ed.




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I would say your build is really good. If you want armor penetration, replace Madred's Bloodrazor with Youmuu's Ghostblade. Also, maybe try an early Wriggle's Lantern? You can sell it for The Bloodthirster later.

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*sigh*

It's like people aren't getting the role she's designed to fit. If you're getting focused and dying, you're doing it wrong. She's designed to spear right to the squishy that mispositioned themselves for 2 seconds, shred them, and then get out of dodge before getting focused.

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4% of max HP is 4% of max HP. Whether it does 40 damage or 400 damage, is still is 4%. That's 25 hits for 100% of max HP.

Most champs get either flat or scaling mres runes, and a lot get merc treads. There are also a plethora of mres steroids out there, and a bunch of other champs even get explicit mres items. The end result? Most champs have >100 mres without even trying. Your 4% is now 2% and the bloodrazor sucks.

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Assuming your final build will look like this:

Frozen Mallet
The Bloodthirster
Phantom Dancer
Phantom Dancer
Last Whisper
Infinity Edge

Here is the cost: 18,060 gold! Congratulations, you have succeeded in creating a practically unachievable build!

The last PD/IE is luxury items for super-late game when you've maxed your slots and want to spend the money you're making by the second. Let's do some more realistic comparisons, shall we?

My core:
Ninja Tabi (usually)
Youmuu's Ghostblade
Phage
Doran's Blade
Doran's Blade
Vampiric Scepter

For a grand total of 6427 cash. Comparedd to a reasonable assumption of the core for the OP's build:
Mercury's Treads
Phage
Wit's End
Atma's Impaler

Costing 6870 cash. Oh look, mine's slightly cheaper! It also adds a bunch more bulk through dual dorans and lifesteal through the vamp scepter.

Now, full build minus end game luxury items:
Ninja Tabi
Youmuu's Ghostblade
Frozen Mallet
The Bloodthirster
Last Whisper
Phantom Dancer

For a total of 15072 gold. In comparison:



Costing 13805 gold. Your build is only 1200 cheaper, but relies partially on 2 magic damage on-hit procs. It's cute, but not really that great. The resistances will come in handy, especially when you get dismantled because you have to spend 5 seconds killing every champion you dive on >.>
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i like tiamats, but yes fiora is supposed to be a melee glass cannon carry. if she was supposed to be tanky, she would have fighter/bruiser tag appropriately. but she doesn't, she's got tags melee (durr) and carry.
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caucheka wrote:

i like tiamats, but yes fiora is supposed to be a melee glass cannon carry. if she was supposed to be tanky, she would have fighter/bruiser tag appropriately. but she doesn't, she's got tags melee (durr) and carry.


Tags? You mean the things Riot puts next to characters to say what roles they fill? Why does Teemo say support then?

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