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How to make Bloodthirster a more viable item.

Creator: Searz February 21, 2011 12:35pm

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Dumbest thing I ever saw bloodthirster is so freaking usefull 100 atk damage and 25% life steal is so pro and dont tell me but when u died u lose your stacks... Its take like 1-2 minutes to take those stacks by farming 2-3 minions waves... Anyway you still have the base 60 ad and 15% lifesteal
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Read the recent comments or GTFO.

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My opinion is that Riot doesn't want to make their life steal items as good as the other items, to promote team composition and usefulness of supports.

Aaaand now they are nerfing supports. GG :)
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Searz wrote:

Yes, 10-20 deaths per team seems to be the most average deaths in pro matches, but the fact that you have to risk even more than usual because you got a certain item with no real benefits over other items just make it bad.. Stacking items are ok because they give a high reward for the relatively high risk. BT gives no reward for a relatively small risk. That's not worth it.


I tend to agree, BT feels like advanced MEjais/SotO to me. And stacking items with benefits that can be lost are just awful in general.
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BT is as good as the other items(sometimes better, sometimes worse). It just has a dumb mechanic with the farming part.

If they'd change that I wouldn't mind a little nerf.
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BT is decent, although if you dont have enough time to farm it out, then I don't think it's worth it. Sure, it's got lifesteal and all, but considering the fact that unless the enemy is realllyyyy bad and you never die, items that stack isn't all that great. And it resets :c

Might as well buy a vamp. Scepter instead c:
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BT is decent, although if you dont have enough time to farm it out, then I don't think it's worth it. Sure, it's got lifesteal and all, but considering the fact that unless the enemy is realllyyyy bad and you never die, items that stack isn't all that great. And it resets :c

Might as well buy a vamp. Scepter instead c:

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I will say after reding the comments that I agree BT is not as strong as other items that will give you pure damage, but I believe this was 100% intentional on Riot's part.

As it stands (generally) among the high Elo players I've listened to, it's an item you basically buy when your team has no healer to sustain you in lane or early fights. I.E, your support is Janna. You get the BT, and a PD, and ideally use Janna shield for an extra 50 AD.

In this way, you'll be attacking fast, life stealing to heal, and hopefully dealing decent damage per hit.

Does it play out? I don't know. I personally don't like the AD carry support line up. Not because it doesn't work, but because until you have an organized team it's gut-wrenchingly miserable to play with supports, so I just don't do it.

Anyway, the point is even if it is underpowered, I think it is intentionally less powerful due to it's life steal aspect, and I think for it to break 100 AD and not lose stats would make it decisively strong, if not OP.

This isn't something I can argue with stats or number, just my gut feeling.

"BT is as good as the other items(sometimes better, sometimes worse). It just has a dumb mechanic with the farming part.

If they'd change that I wouldn't mind a little nerf."

I'm down :P I think an 80 AD cap that never goes away with like a 20% life steal cap would be ideal.
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huehuehue sorry i didnt really read it. Just stated my comment :c
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DuffTime wrote:

I will say after reding the comments that I agree BT is not as strong as other items that will give you pure damage, but I believe this was 100% intentional on Riot's part.

Obviously. I'm saying it's up to par WITH the life steal taken into consideration.

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As it stands (generally) among the high Elo players I've listened to, it's an item you basically buy when your team has no healer to sustain you in lane or early fights. I.E, your support is Janna. You get the BT, and a PD, and ideally use Janna shield for an extra 50 AD.

NEVER buy PD before IE. Just not worth it.
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