Warwick Changes?

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Which is why squishy "DPS" Warwick is as useful as a tits on a turtle if you can't survive the focus fire then WTF is the point of suppressing anyone?[/quote]

[quote=Kurt_Ottman]Not if someone else initiates?[/quote]

[quote=Searz]No.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Kurt, you're going to give me an aneurysm.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Aneurysms for everyone!!![/quote]

[quote=Somalie]1 Someone else initiate. 2 Then you pray their are dumb enough to blow every CC and heavy dmg skills on him. 3 Then you ult. The main problem is that step 2 won't happen that often, and if it does, you could even win with glasscanon AP warwick.[/quote]

[quote=Kurt_Ottman]You guys are really fun ^^ I'll just leave it at that, cause you guys certainly are impossible, and we're getting to the "if this happens, you can do that" part of the conversation, which isn't really the point I'm trying to make. :) Anyhow, I realize WW is good as a tank, just not full tank, he needs some offense (now Bloodrazor will be buffed too, making it better on WW). And didn't I make it clear that I DO get defensive items on WW? Just not in the beginning, when you gank and stuff. Teamfights are lategame :P[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210][quote=Kurt_Ottman] For items, I go: [list] [*] [[Long sword]] + [[health pot]] [*] [[Madred's razors]] [*] [[Sorcerer's shoes]] [*] [[Wit's End]] [*] [[Malady]] [*] [[Madred's Bloodrazor]] [*] *Defensive item* [*] *Luxury slot* (good choices include [[The Bloodthirster]], [[The black cleaver]] and [[Hextech gunblade]]. See what you need). [/list][/quote] The problem with this "glass cannon" build is that anyone who knows anything about Warwick will buy a [[quicksilver sash]] and, pardon the language, shit all over you. You need more bulk or you will simply be focused down, granted they might not expect your DPS early. This way you become more about maximizing peel than being the carry of your team. Generating threat is what tanky dps is about and Warwick has a high threat output due to his ult. [[Glacial shroud]] is worth the buy, especially if your solo top. I would ditch [[malady]] and your luxury for heavier tank items like [[guardian angel]] or [[banshee's veil]]. You might wanna look into our build ideas, before you go claiming we are ignoring your reasoning.[/quote]

[quote=Kurt_Ottman]^ I have tried them, that's why I'm discussing. Duh :P Have you even tried Malady yet?[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=Luther3000] I'm strugging to find a way to explain it, since it should be exceedingly obvious, but...building non-tanky melee champions just does [i]not[/i] work. The only viable melee DPS champion is Tryndamere*, and that's because he gains some tankiness from his ult and he can spin and heal to get away. You [i]cannot[/i] build DPS Warwick. It will [i]not[/i] work against anyone who has a brain. You'll get CC'd and bursted down every time you ult and you won't last five seconds in a teamfight. [/quote] There once was an AP carry called Katarina. She could blink right onto her enemies then spin to win. Somehow, she always managed to time it when they were out of CC and devastated their entire team. ...Why do people accept squishy Katarina as viable, but not DPS Warwick? It's not a case of "if they have a brain it won't work". Because even if they have a brain, there will always be good times and bad times to use your ult. It depends on whether YOU have a brain or not for it to work.[/quote]