Xin Zhao Theorycrafting

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=DuffTime] The main reason TBC could be better, is the AS which is pivotal for Xin. I would build TBC instead of LW on Xin. [/quote] With Wit's End at mid game you have more than enough AS TBC is simply a waste LW scales infinitely better with his passive+masteries. Just my opinion.[/quote]

[quote=Hamduden]Now you must have tried him for some games. Please report back your findings; I'm on vacation, so I can't play him atm! @JEFFY40HANDS Can you tell me your argument for FM > TF again? To me it seems that a 5 sec CD on TTS makes the passive of TF even better than before! And you talked about costs. But you are building Phage/Zeal, two rather useful items, before you are buying the final item (TF) - so I don't think you'll notice the costs. And TF is perhaps one of the most cost-effective items in the game if you look at the stats provided.[/quote]

[quote=Somalie]HP help staying alive. Guaranted slow on every AA can slow a whole team trying to reach an ap/ad carry or allows to chase to nexus against everyone. And it is good in lane.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]I've figured out somewhat a build for the guy - this is a balls deep ad-build. I've never liked going full tanky deeps, i like to have a little bit more of a punch! boots+3 -> Wriggle's -> HoG -> Hexdrinker -> TBC -> GA -> Maw -> Randuin's. Mabe replace the Wriggle's with a triforce late?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Now Xin is looking pretty raw dog.[/quote]

[quote=Svingas]I have been playing around with a new build. Not sure if it is actually as good as it looks or too gimicky. [[mercury's treads]], [[youmuu's ghostblade]], [[frozen mallet]], [[guinsoo's rageblade]], [[guardian angel]], and [[the bloodthirster]]. I get [[wriggle's lantern]] earlier on because I still prefer to jungle with him.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Also I retract my previous statement. With the new rework I would consider LW and TBC under entirely different circumstances.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=DuffTime] Also I retract my previous statement. With the new rework I would consider LW and TBC under entirely different circumstances. [/quote] cmon - you wouldn't consider lw would you oO?[/quote]

[quote=Hateryx]The new Xin Zhao has now bigger impact on the team fights especially because on its new [[Crescent]]. Its [[Crescent Sweep]] acts like Janna's[[Moonsoon]]. IMO, this should be the basis of Xin Zhao's build because this gave Xin Zhao a new and flexible role. The ability to initiate (using [[Audacious Charge]]) and clear out the battlefield (using [[Crescent Sweep]] is IMO only exclusive to Xin Zhao for now. Since his new ultimate is now more agressive than ever, this would give more reason for the enemy team to focus on Xin Zhao. This is true especially once Xin Zhao use [[Crescent Sweep]] as enemy team will probably attempt to save the Challenged champion. Hence, it would be more practical to resort to tanky build ([[Frozen Mallet + Randuin's Omen]][/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]After some games with [[Xin zhao]] as a jungler, I feel that he has, much like [[Darius]], enough build in damage. I think the only real damage item he needs is [[trinity force]], the rest can be super tanky. This reminds me aswell onto [[irelia]]. The thing with [[trinity force]] is, I feel like that it just doubles my damage output and that is why it is a must for me. Also after [[trinity force]] I have enough AS.[/quote]