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dont you think that more cdr on your w gives you more "sticking" potential? then i disabling spell which can be popped by non cc spells?
No because you can get up to a 4 second extension on burnout just by auto attacking, with a 10% cdr Burnout. If you have to activate it twice then at that point then it already took you too long to kill the ADC. You have two slows with 3 items to begin with. Spirit visage is now a core item in the guide due to the bork changes anyway, so the CDR is there if you really want it.
Because this build thrives on sticking to the adc and either killing or keeping them out of the fight. Bork is your only sustain tool and spirit visage doesn't add much to that. Banshee's will make it harder to peel you or kite you.
dont you think that more cdr on your w gives you more "sticking" potential? then i disabling spell which can be popped by non cc spells?
I have to agree about
Still, I want to see this finished, I've been considering top/smite
I actually agree with that now, It's going to be part of the next revision. Thank you for your input, and keep checking back!
Still, I want to see this finished, I've been considering top/smite
What I meant by maxing
Makes sense, I'll include it as an option when I publish the next revision. thanks for the feedback
- Your cheatsheet is messy and too short. Some people will only glance at the guide whilst loading into the game so they'll look at the items and notes. You need to give explanations within the notes and give alternatives. Elixers? Splitpush Jungle
- Shyvana's AOE damage isn't really within a big radius, her dueling/waveclear power is strong but she is more of a single target champion. Also, in your Cons you've said she "can't" fall behind. Isn't that a pro?
- You want to use BBC coding which links back to the mobafire database to make your guide more visual and appealing. A wall of text is boring to read. You've given explanations and an overview of her but there is a lack of grammar, punctuation and spelling. You can find the BBC coding guide by clicking here.
I've addressed the lack of bb coding in the bottom of the guide. It's still a work in progress, you're not the first to point out the plain look of the guide. Also maxing flame breathe first for clearing camps does not work. Burnout does a lot more damage to camps, and like I stated in the guide gromp is very important for tank junglers in this meta, so you shouldn't clear it just because you want too. You should ask first. If people want to downvote, I don't have an issue with that. I'm not here for notoriety or fame, I'm here to help spread a little information and educate people and help myself become a better player.
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Yes, would be great to get
- Shyvana's AOE damage isn't really within a big radius, her dueling/waveclear power is strong but she is more of a single target champion. Also, in your Cons you've said she "can't" fall behind. Isn't that a pro?
- You want to use BB coding which links back to the mobafire database to make your guide more visual and appealing. A wall of text is boring to read. You've given explanations and an overview of her but there is a lack of grammar, punctuation and spelling. You can find the BB coding guide by clicking here.
Imo in 9 of 10
You could get visuals of that Laning-chapter a bit better. I guess that's still the one that interests people the most. A lots of people want to play smite-top but don't know how. / From what I have seen while smurfing. Currently that chapter is pretty huge block of text, try to make it a bit easier to read.
I would also like some sort of explanation of when to jungle and when to lane and when to save smite for enemy toplaner. (you got sabre, sick in 1v1) Which levels are your power spikes? When do you want to attack? How do you react on your jungler's ganks when you got no flash. Just few more ideas you could think about.
First of all, thank you for taking the time to read the guide and giving feedback. I will definitely take those suggestions to heart. The guide is not complete however, I encourage you to critique the existing information. Also there is a disclaimer section at the bottom of the guide stating that I'am aware that the guide doesn't look the most glamorous and I will be organizing it once I have published all the information.
To touch up on your response, Spirit Visage gives you very little mileage as shyvana, She has no built in sustain or regeneration tools. The only sustain you will be building is off of blade of the ruined king which is small, especially since you're not a full ad damage threat. You're more of a hybrid damage dealing tank. The cool down reduction is decent, but the 10% isn't that effective on it's own. Your ultimate builds off of rage, not a cooldown timer, and your Twin bite refreshes off of auto attacks. Shyvana is easily kite able and peel able, having a spell shield to block the next incoming spell is big when you're trying to zone or kill the ad carry. . Which is the whole point of going smite top and building a bork and a thornmail. It will also make your ultimate safer, you won't be as easily interrupted when initiating a fight with it No one should be playing this with the explicit goal of trying to peel, or just be disruptive in team fights. Those are situational choices, not the reason to lock this in during champion select.