7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=NicknameMy]Tahm Kench also has absolutely 0 gap closer, so his aggressive spells are rather meh. He is the most defensive support ever. And his ultimate, I would say [[shen]] support is better.[/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri][quote=NicknameMy]Tahm Kench also has absolutely 0 gap closer, so his aggressive spells are rather meh. He is the most defensive support ever.[/quote] Well, he has something of a gap closer when he scoops up a teammate and runs toward the enemy. Plus, his ultimate can set up some wicked two man ganks. However, those kinds of moves will need some good communication between teammates. Also, you definitely have to build speed boost items on him to overcome his inherent lack of mobility.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]if you close the gap with your Devour, you can't Devour an enemy tho.[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi][quote=MungoGeri][quote=FalseoGod]Trading ultimates for an 8 second cooldown ability that can save people who don't have the brain to position correctly rustles my jimmies[/quote] Then you just kill [[tahm kench]] before he can get away. Even with the small speed increase he gets with a teammate inside him, he doesn't have much mobility. Besides, there are lots of supports who can rescue people out of position with their abilities. [[nami]] bubble, [[soraka]] heals and silence, [[lulu]] shield and whimsy, [[thresh]]'s lantern, etc.[/quote] Focus the tanky support before he can get away.... huh. And I wasn't aware that nami's bubble or soraka's heal can pull people out from danger. Huh! This thread is dropping down to NicknameMy in quality. COME BACK H4X! GET WELL FASTER![/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]People told me I suck cuz I played [[shen]] support, now suddenly he is one of the strongest supports in the game, how times can change. Who could have thought that [[shen]] basically autowins every lane post he is 6.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]But of a shame they buffed Spirit Visage to increase all healing by 20% then otherwise he might be top tier.[/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri][quote=Toshabi]Focus the tanky support before he can get away.... huh. And I wasn't aware that nami's bubble or soraka's heal can pull people out from danger. Huh! This thread is dropping down to NicknameMy in quality. [/quote] It will if I have to explain the obvious to you. Focus the tanky immobile easily cc'd support while the damage dealer is stuck not being able to do anything inside him? Sure. Go for it. Even if you don't get the full kill, both will be low on health, and you can pressure them from then on. [[Nami]]'s bubble and heal and [[soraka]]'s silence and heal are often able to pull people out of bad situations that they got themselves into. Yes. Not sure what you're having difficulty with on that. Actually, in their cases, they can heal their dumb adc back up to full health, too, and [[tahm kench]] can't do that. I notice that you didn't mention [[thresh]]'s lantern, which doesn't even put [[thresh]] in harm's way.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=NicknameMy]Tahm Kench also has absolutely 0 gap closer, so his aggressive spells are rather meh. He is the most defensive support ever. And his ultimate, I would say [[shen]] support is better.[/quote] This has been my experience as well, as far as support goes. Devour is pretty annoying if you're an assassin but other than that I don't see much appeal. I'd much rather have [[Stand United]] than [[Abyssal Voyage]] as well.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]Even if Tahm does devour someone its not like he's hard to catch. Leona Q, Shen E, Taric's Dazzle make him a sitting duck.[/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri][quote=PsiGuard] This has been my experience as well, as far as support goes. Devour is pretty annoying if you're an assassin but other than that I don't see much appeal. I'd much rather have [[Stand United]] than [[Abyssal Voyage]] as well.[/quote] You understand that [[tahm kench]] can carry someone *with* him, right? Kinda the point of him. I think he'll be used in team play more than in solo queue, because voice communication will help a lot with him.[/quote]