Riven Build Guide : [25.07] Become A Riven God :: League of Legends Strategy Builds

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Hello, the build suggestion is good, but it would be more useful if there was a more detailed guide such as which items to choose according to the opponents. Yes, there is a detailed description at the bottom, but unfortunately there is no guidance on which build should be applied against the opponents.

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The problem with creating something like that is that it very easily and very quickly becomes outdated. From that point on it gives not only outdating advice, but wrong advice. On top of this, Fixing it is never easy. It often results in rewriting the entire sections 5-6 times a season. Whereas up top in the drop down sections I can pretty easily show a few builds and give explanations on when to use them.

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Nice build id just change the haste in the runes with attack speed since you'll have 100 ability haste anyways. :)

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It's pretty up in the air as to which is best. The 8 ability haste helps you hit the sweet spot sooner. That can be more valuable than the Attack speed in certain matchups. Against squishy-ranged champions, the AD is superior due to short but impactful trades.

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is conq better than elec?

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Depends on your playstyle. If you're going to do mostly short trades, elec is best. If you're looking to slap it out till a second rotation Conq is better. If you're going to play more cooldown oriented, Elec is best.

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What runes do you recommend with the lethality build?

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I've found a better damage build than the lethality. You can see it under the test build now. This allows you to go ham on certain targets. You can use Galeforce to engage or disengage or finish a target. I've found it much more satisfying and practical than the meta build.

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ez win against gnar

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Good **** bro, glad it worked out for you! Gnar is usually a skill matchup so I'm glad you crushed it!

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this is a very different build! Looks like it could work though so I'll try it out in norms, also this is one of the only guides without youmuus which is insanely busted and it has hullbreaker which I don't think is very good on riven because she isn't suited to splitpushing

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Youmuu's is a good item, but it doesn't offer any durability. It gives ability haste, but in my build, you need no additional Ability haste.

You end up getting at least 78 Ability Haste. At this point you have about 45% CDR. If you want to surpass this value, it will cost you. For just another 10% cdr you need more than 40 Ability haste, which would be Black cleaver and youmuu's. While these aren't incredibly intensive on the build's resources, they do sacrifice quite a bit in gold efficiency and acquiration of stats.

Where something like Hullbreaker gives >198% gold efficiency, Youmuu's (99% (in combat) -127% (out of combat) and Black Cleaver (105%) pale in comparison of gold efficiency. Hullbreaker also costs less than either of these making the power spike much sooner.

Have you ended up trying it out? How did it go? The playstyle to make it work properly is much more split focused, but often I've found that's ideal anyways.

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I've tried it out in flex and I can only make it work when I'm super fed but then I don't want to group which is usually what I like to do on riven, it's a very different playstyle that's for sure

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Incomplete, and is not simple. EDIT: They have listened to my pleas and my suggestions, Therefore the guide is now simple, AND complete.

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How so? On either accord. I would say something that considers itself complete may be simple but in that simplicity, worthless. Times change, as do information. Even people change. So anything that truly considers itself complete is worthless in a matter of time.

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Idk if you updated it or not, cuz i think it looks better now? anywho I'd like to see those "Full Build Example" thingies, since usually i just pop this durin the match and dont have much time to read everything, so i want things simple. Also having situational, best against, worst against, kinda item lists.

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I'm always updating it. I try to keep things as simple as possible within reason. Your requests seem contradictory in and of themselves, and my goal of brevity. To fully explain what you ask would require likely 30,000+ characters. No one would ever be able to read it all with a normal attention span. I do, however, have a matchup guide on another page (linked in the guide) that is similar to what you request but offering it instead.

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Fair enough. I still stand by my point of "Full Build examples" these are extremely important, i see the guide looks much much better now which is wonderful. Then again the items are very important, and there should be a certain build or item to build against certain match ups. For example, Buy antiheal against Aatrox even if you are much ahead, since you could still lose thanks to that. Buying that anti cc item for mordekaiser R. If you do make those full builds, then by all means you deserve a vote, a pleasant comment, and all the good stuff. You will have made a 10/10 Guide. (in my eyes at least.)

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I don't mean to seem condescending, but to anyone who knows the game even reasonably, these options are obvious. I have added the full build versions as requested, though I see it strange to repeat the core and boots twice.

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Of course they are, but still, if im trying to find the best choice overall, some meta changes, some items nerfed, or if i dont know what the champ is about at all, dont have expereince with them (rivens i see are weird, lethality, some stridebreaker sometimes, eclipse... sheesh.) Anyways, your guide is officially Upvoted by me, And i will be editing my review into a proper, Praising one.

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I have a problem, I haven't really played riven too much but I play her sometimes but I always feel like the auto-attack is too slow any recommendation on that?

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Her base Attack Speed is rather slow. Against characters with faster attack speed, often kiting around them will allow you to get the same damage amount while slowing down their damage due to them having to walk and then auto. Now, during the fast q combo, her Attack Speed is very high assuming you do it well.

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After the nerfs to goredrinker and ravenous hydra on patch 11.3, does the build path differ?

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I would presume so. Some people will still probably swear by the rav gore build. I think there will be other options, not many though. I'll get into testing here soon since the patch just dropped.

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When do I use the out of spite build?

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The out of spite build is an alternative to the normal goredrinker build. It deals an incredible amount of damage, but obviously isn't quite as durable. It takes a little more precision to pilot.

Use it into champions that would win short fights, the best example being Veigar or fed ADCS. Into situations like those you want to kill your target and be able to take down the rest, this build allows you to do just that.

Into a heavy tank comp, the normal goredrinker build would likely be the best.

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Hello Seth346 (or RivalofAll), here is the review you requested.

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Build / Cheatsheet

I saw that you do not have any notes for your rune page. I know that Conqueror and such are pretty popular on Riven but maybe give some insight on specifically why it benefits her? I also saw that you recommend Sorcery secondary, why? On stat sites it shows that Inspiration with Magical Footwear and Cosmic Insight is the most popular choice for all elos, why not go these runes & what makes sorcery a better option?
You also don’t have any notes for the Teleport summoner spells. You do have one for Ignite and whilst that one is rather short, it’s still pretty good and it would be useful to have one for the Teleport version too (considering it’s the first recommended summoner spell you see when opening the guide).
I’m going off of my own opinion here but I feel like it would be better to break these items up into separate sections, something along the lines of this. It makes it less of a mess, gives the same purpose and you can also add in notes for each specific start without the description becoming overly too long to the point where it won’t make any sense. Even more since the notes you have there already only talks about Doran's Blade & Doran's Shield but nothing about Long Sword (there are also 3 health potions you can buy there and not 1, you can achieve this by clicking the health potion 3 times in an item set).
In your notes for boots you only really describe why you need to buy boots and while that itself is really good to mention, you don’t talk anything about the kind of boots you buy on Riven, only about the importance of movement speed (e.g. to get to lane faster). Why and when is Ninja Tabi useful and when is it better to opt for Mercury's Treads. Stat sites also show that you can build Ionian Boots of Lucidity & it’s quite popular on Riven (supposedly has a higher winrate than both mercuries and tabi’s), why not go for these?
Your frontliner build & consistent damage core does not include any boots (would assume that’s the 6th item) and though that is not the most important thing, it can be an option to put it in (e.g. do you need to buy boots early or later, I would assume earlier in the game right?). None of these builds have any notes either so I’m a bit confused as to when each build is useful to go for, maybe that should be explained a little bit?
You also have this random thing in your item section. I think it's a bit pointless to have that there, if there are more item choices for Riven, maybe those should be explained in this cheat sheet as "Situational Items" instead? I feel like that makes more sense, this just looks very off and people will know that there are more stuff in the guide as well.
Your second ability order has the title “Grasp Page” and mentions Grasp again in the notes, despite there are no rune pages or any other mentions of the Grasp rune page/keystone anywhere else in the guide.
I am also going off of my opinion here but I think it’s pretty pointless to have a Threats/Synergies section at the top of the guide if you already have a separate guide talking about the matchups for Riven (with a link to said guide inside of your guide). This sentence is a bit more off-topic from this guide but figured I’d let you know that you don’t need to have a cheatsheet to make the rest of the guide chapters (this is about your matchups guide), I think it’s a bit annoying to have all of this junk taking all of the space at the top of the guide, making you have to scroll even further down to get to the actual matchup section which the entire purpose of that guide is about, right? Also if you use Threats/Synergies only for the synergies part, then I would actually recommend to either have that in your guide or put it in a different section in your already existing matchup guide, I think it fits more there.

Presentation

I think overall you’ve done a great job with the visuals and formatting of the guide. Some text parts are centered for some reason when they don’t really need to be but it’s not to the point where it completely breaks apart the aesthetic feeling of the guide so it’s fine.

Content

About The Author

The second paragraph where you talk about streaming and that it’s the thing that you want to do and stuff, I feel like you can format it better other than just making it centered. Compared to all the other formatting you have in your guide already, this one is the only one I think is a bit lackluster since it’s a cheap way to make some formatting (and it makes the text look weird in this specific case imo). Otherwise the rest looks great.

Coaching

I feel like so much more could be explained within this section. For example, you could explain to your readers what kind of achievements you have gotten on Riven, how far have you gotten playing the champion, and how you would be qualified to be a coach (based on your knowledge of the game & the champion in particular) and so forth. Let’s take an example because I like examples, what if there was a completely new reader coming to MOBAFire. They are an aspiring Riven player and want to get better at the champion, they really want to get some coaching. They have absolutely no idea who you are and have never watched your content but still sees that you coach and might want to look into it. What kind of information more than just the fact that people can add you to get coached would be enough to interest this potential reader into actually getting coached by you since I could imagine that people would like to know what knowledge the coach has in terms of the game or just the champion in question in order to make a decision if they want coaching from them or not. Just a general thought.

Pros / Cons

Are there only 2 pros and cons? I felt like with Riven there would be a few more.
I don’t get how “Least Limited Champion” explains why you have played her a lot and you like playing champions that are difficult and rewards the player for their skill. Typically when I hear “Least Limited Champion” I’d think that means she’s a pretty versatile champion and you can adapt pretty easily with her, she’s not limited to a certain kind of items, runes, playstyle and such. What I get from your description right now is just that you’re explaining the reason why you technically should play Riven (because she’s fun and entertaining).

Spells

There’s only a few issues with this section and it’s a bit about the formatting of it. I feel like you should break apart the first sentence “The main 3 spells on Riven: Flash, Ignite, Teleport.” and have them at the top of the section, as their own description, maybe you can make it longer and add in some additional text to that or you can even put a divider preferably in the same purple-ish color that you already use in order to make sure that one is its own being. I don’t think it should be in the description for Flash because frankly, it doesn’t talk or add anything about why the flash summoner spell is useful for Riven, so maybe it shouldn’t be there? You can also add in a code which is called “indent” which will sorta push the text inwards and it’ll look something like this, which looks cool and the space between them is just normal spaces you can add.

Here's an easy code if you want to do it yourself:

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[indent]The main 3 spells on [[Riven]]: [[Flash]], [[Ignite]] and [[Teleport]].[/indent]
I also noticed that the purple-ish divider you have that breaks apart the summoner spell icons on the left from the text on the right is not the same length as the text so it looks off. The icons themselves look pretty cramped up but not that big of an issue. I think you should up the height of the divider (to at least 285 or 290) so that it’s on par with the text, and if you make the text longer, then the divider should also be longer, I think that looks way better.

Runes

You talk about Coup de Grace inside of your rune section and slowly mention a bit about Last Stand but Last Stand is shown in the cheat sheet and since there are no notes in the cheat sheet, Coup de Grace feels like a mundane choice.
For the secondary tree you mention a few different secondary options which I guess is fine but the main ones you’ve decided to talk about is Nimbus Cloak & Transcendence. Now, in your cheatsheet you do not mention Nimbus Cloak but instead you mention Gathering Storm. Transcendence is also poorly formatted since it’s above gathering in the cheatsheet but below nimbus cloak (or what would be gathering storm) inside of the rune section.
In that same section about secondary trees you also mention Transcendence again despite already covering it further below, why? Wouldn’t it make more sense to cover the other runes that people might run since those are also mentioned in that short description, stuff like the Inspiration & Resolve options?
So there’s an alternate ability maxing order just slapped right in here randomly which I think is weird for a few reasons. If you want to have ability orders, maybe it would make more sense to have a separate section talking about skill sequences (for that purpose). It’s also because it’s called the “alternate maxing order” but there are no main ability maxing orders? I would assume that said ability order that you should go on Riven (like W max) would be before you start talking about rune pages & Conqueror in order to keep it consistent? Since only having this one here is weird and even more so since it’s just the alternate versions, the one you can “maybe” use.
You mention the Grasp of the Undying page, yet there are no such rune page or any mentions of it in the cheat sheet. If it’s a good page to use, it should be mentioned I would say. Looking from some stat sites, it is almost never used, so if it’s not a good page then it wouldn’t make much sense to talk about it if Conqueror is the more superior choice.

Items

You explain the different kinds of starting items way better here then you do in the cheat sheet, so that’s great.
I would mention that merc’s are also great mainly for the tenacity that it provides, considering Riven is so heavily reliant on not getting CC’d, those boots can be a huge help in most situations.
You mention a crit-heavy build but no such build is featured inside of the cheat sheet, only the 2 others you talk about (Frontliner build & Main build).
The descriptions for each build is pretty good but you don’t really go that in-depth on why just these items make the build, why these specific items are the go-to choice for Riven. For example, why are they good on her? What can you achieve and do with these items? What items makes you more of a frontliner in the frontliner build and what items gives you the necessary strengths for the main build and so forth. I feel like you can elaborate on it maybe and maybe even add further information about the builds.
I also realised this a bit late but some of your items colors are very weird, for the items that they showcase. For example, your Infinity Edge text has a bright yellow color but the item itself has more of a darker yellow color. Same goes with some others too like Ninja Tabi having an orange color but they are more so green, Long Sword is blue for some reason, Doran's Shield I can get by, that’s fine and the Doran's Blade is colored as red but the color of the icon is not exactly red afaik. You can always use a color picker to pick colors, there are free ones & easy to use on google if you want to have good matching ones.

Abilities

Maybe change the colors of the titles (e.g. Ki Burst being yellow) and the description of the ability (e.g. some are green colored) to either purple or another color that fits more with the theme you’re using (I think it would fit pretty nicely with Spirit blossom).

Matchups

You do mention that your matchup section was getting relatively large but then again you can shorten all the matchups by using spoilers, but I guess making a separate guide for that is still pretty neat and does the job anyways.

Essential Combos

I feel like you can fit in more videos in here, possibly to not make it so empty of a section. I feel like these combos can probably be transcribed into text as well. Some readers would rather prefer to read information instead of listening & seeing it. I feel like you can accomplish both things by having combos with text explaining them and then having the video at the end for anyone who doesn’t want to read about it etc.

Forging a Lead

Main thing here is that you can probably make a small space between those videos at the end, so they don’t look so cramped up (and maybe even fit in some more?). I feel like you could get some more video content in here maybe since “forging a lead” could mean a lot of different things and feels like a topic that can lead to a lot of information.

Early Game

I feel like this only explains one kind of playstyle for the early stage. Most newer Riven players who might not be the most skilled players might not be able to execute this so-called “cheese” that it’s referred to now. What if this tactic fails? What do you do then? Can you really do this against every single top lane matchup, is there no matchups where you can actually get backfired by doing this tactic? This tactic works the best with Ignite and therefore, what do you do in lane if you have Teleport? Does this strategy still work or nah?

Recovery

You mention that Sunfire Aegis is nasty. However, according to stat sites, Sunfire Aegis has never ever been built once on Riven, so why mention that?
The images are not the same sizes and it’s quite off. I think what you can do is make both warding images the same size (not one image is super small and one very large) and maybe even fit in more kinds of warding locations, what about the other tri-bush on the map that is not hovered by a ward? I would imagine that one is good to ward if you think you’re going to get doved, same logic applies to both tri-bushes in my opinion, not just a way to ward to be safe from ganks. Maybe you can also put these inside of spoilers as well so that they don’t take up as much space as they currently are.
Apart from the fact that the information itself is not very long, I do like how the section is built.

This is probably what I'd be considering as a solid guide with a few mistakes here and there that can be fixed. You've gone far with the gameplay stuff and it shows that time has been put into it and the basic info is mostly there. Other than some of the potential improvements I suggested in my review, I think the biggest goal here for your guide that I'd recommend to focus on is expanding the depth of gameplay information you have. I feel like there are so many more things that you can maybe talk about when it comes to in my opinion, and if it’s not about the champion then even just general talk about how to play top lane would go a really long way.

I hope you find the review helpful and good luck with the guide!

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I've addressed most of what you've said! Somethings I wasn't sure about since it seemed like I'm just repeating information in one spot of the next. I don't want people to just stop looking at the guide at the cheat sheet. I want them to read the whole thing. Maybe that's not the way things are right now with other guides, but the way they should be.

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The point I was trying to make with the cheat sheet is the fact that it's mostly used to gather quick information. Most readers likely use guides before they start up a match, they won't have enough time to read through the whole guide before their game starts, this is what the cheat sheet is for. Then likely after the game if they performed well or if they lost but still want to get better at the champion, they'll likely come back and continue reading through the whole guide.

There's absolutely no way to determine if readers want to stop at the cheat sheet or read the entire guide since that's their decision. But most of the time, they will come back if they truly want to improve or learn more about said champion / role.

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