How exactly is Cassiopeia fail?

[quote=AnIh]its not of question of required skill , her dmg are is just a joke .[/quote]

[quote=Lazukin]Her damage is VERY high tier. What exactly are you talking about? EDIT: To clarify, if you're having trouble with Cass, it should be because she doesn't have a great ult or W. Not because you're not doing enough damage. Damage is what she does best to be honest.[/quote]

[quote=AnIh]not really , veigar do dmg cassio dont .[/quote]

[quote=Lazukin]Cass does more damage (AND it's a lot of AoE) in 5-6 seconds than Veigar does.Veigar does more damage in 2-3 seconds. Veigar is burst. Cass is sustained. Veigar is probably an overall better champion though, because of his stun.[/quote]

[quote=AnIh]Who care of sustained dmg u need to take down champions not killing one after they killed all your mates . veigar get me to 10% as xin with 200 mr and 3K hp , cassio will never do that kind of dmg .[/quote]

[quote=SatansFate][quote=Lazukin] [quote=Restrictnine] She requires more APM than any other champ in the game, outside of maybe karthus. The average APM for a community like LoL is around 90-100. My friend who has been trying her out quite a bit lately runs at about 170 APM, and even HE thinks cass is difficult to micro with. The brutal truth is that she is very good, but her APM requirement is just way too high for the time of casual gamer that typically will play league. P.S. APM = Actions Per Minute [/quote] This. Someone who doesn't shoot her down for no legitimate reason. Yaaay. [/quote] Agreed, someone who knows what they're talking about. I personally don't find this a problem, I find it more interesting. But that's just me. [quote=AnIh] Who care of sustained dmg u need to take down champions not killing one after they killed all your mates . veigar get me to 10% as xin with 200 mr and 3K hp , cassio will never do that kind of dmg . [/quote] Cassio vs. Veigar, I would take Cassio anyday.[/quote]

[quote=Alahric]TL;DR She's too squishy for her own good. No reliable survivability mechanic, aaaaaand you're screwed.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]^ that I will agree with, but it isn't as crippling as you think.[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995]Cassiopeia may be VERY high skill champion, but that doesn't make her viable. Her ultimate is incredibly easy to counter. Her twin fang has a horribly short range, and to deal sustained damage you need to stay within this miniscule range to deal damage - thus, you need heavy survivability, and less damage. Her miasma is basically useless. It's a minor poison that's basically just good for farming. She might have potential in the hands of a VERY skilled player, but as someone else said: High risk, low reward.[/quote]

[quote=Xaioli][quote=SatansFate] DOT lasts 2 seconds if you hit them with it once. That's 5 shots with your E, 4 more likely considering cast times. So that's 1k-1.2k damage right off the bat. If you're any good and can actually LEAD with your Q/W then even better. @Xaioli, EU metagame is far more passive/defensive, so Cassio fits right in. There's no such thing as bad champions, only bad players. [/quote] I didn't know how EU players play, but perhaps your current metagame is better for Cass. Seeing how I only play US, perhaps you're clearly right for the EU side at least. Here on the US, it's aggressive early and mid game, slow down late game. However, we're being ruled by the Tanky DPS metagame at the moment. Something that can rip Cass a new one. When it comes to bad players, that's what seperates a 1000 elo from a high elo player like Bigfatlp or Hsgg. Skill. Playing against Cass is like playing WoW all over again. Low Elo and Bad WoW Players - Herp derp, just gonna stand in this giant fucking circle. What is that. A fireball? Let's not dodge it. Durrr Mid/High Elo and Decent/Great WoW players- oh, a circle that obviously dangerous. Perhaps I should move out of it. Good thing I'm skilled. See where I'm getting at with this? I used to play wow before I can came to league. There's going to be bad players everywhere and champs like Cass will wreck low elo players who don't know what is good or bad, or if this pool of poison is healthy for their champion or not. When it comes to more skilled players, people tend not to stand in circles because it's obvious that getting poked is bad.[/quote]