How to make Bloodthirster a more viable item.

[quote=mobrebel]I really don't like threads like these. Comparing items can cause people to undervalue an item that actually is good on champions that they play often. Bloodthirster is a completely viable and good item, as it is used for the combination of Attack Damage and Lifesteal that isn't on ANY other item. Survivability and Damage together is always nice.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Please state why it's viable if you wanna discuss. For the many reasons stated in the first post I don't think it is viable. Read the first post and then come with counter arguments.[/quote]

[quote=mobrebel]The Bloodthirster, by all means, shouldn't be used as a "own all with just one item" item. It is a compliment to a good core build. It gives the most pure damage after it is stacked. But, of course, you lose those stacks if you die. Now, for someone who dies a lot, this isn't the best of items. BUT, to get the full potential out of it, you have to kill things. 40 kills total to fill this bad boy up. But, with the death, it doesn't seem as good. I know it probably deserves a small buff, but it really is a great item. The damage is still a great addition at no stacks. The lifesteal, although small, is also pretty good combined with the high amount of damage you should have by the time you go for this item. It is, in no way, completely UP. It might be a gamble, but even if you die, you still get the stacks back as you defend/push/fight. In this way, it is viable. Unless, of course, you are dying every 2 minutes. Then, you should probably trade it for a Banshee's Veil or Guardian Angel.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Then you do agree that it is UP. If it didn't lose it's stacks on death I would consider it viable, but that's not the case :( My change suggestions were to make the item a bit different (they are about as powerful as a BT that doesn't lose it's stacks at death). As BT is now it stacks up just like Warmog's Armor and I'd rather have a more unique item. That's what I'm trying to do with the suggestions.[/quote]

[quote=mobrebel]I'm on the more neutral side. I don't think it is UP, but I don't think it is the best item for everyone. I'm in the middle on this arguement, as it depends on the skill of the player as well. I hope you understand what I mean... 0-0[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Np, I understand.[/quote]

[quote=GeniusNoob]I agree that BT is questionable, but If you are a great farmer like Master Yi or Sivir, who also has amazing attackspeed buffs, it is simply amazing. Regardless, it's not an item to rush in my opinion, and I would only get it as my 5-6th item if the game drags out long enough as there are better items to get.[/quote]

[quote=Fireup6]I'm pretty sure it's just a forced buy at some point. What alternative to a BT do you suggest? A typical AD carry build would be LW Boots Infinity Phantom Ghostblade Bloodthirster What would you swap in place of the BT?[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]NECROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Bloodthirster is well known to be viable now :)[/quote]

[quote=Fireup6]Ah i should have noticed. What changes were made to BT that make it viable now? I havn't noticed anything besides the stack record update.[/quote]