Galio runes

[quote=Searz]I'm thinking MrP marks Armor seals MR glyphs MR quints MR quints seem like the 100% obvious choice, but I dunno about the other runes. MR/lvl glyphs and HP/lvl seals seem like possible options too. MR glyphs and quints give 13.455 AP. That'll be very useful for winning your lane.[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]i would say Hp/lvl Seals. Mostly because it is really hard to get some good health on galio. Rest seems fine.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Banshee and/or ROA? Both are great on him.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]Mana Regen per level Seals - Maximize the [[Chalice of Harmony]] you'll definitely buy. Chalice only works well if you already have Mana Regen on you. Dodge Seals wouldn't be a bad idea either if you plan to skill down the Defensive mastery tree. [[Guardian Angel]] and/or [[Aegis of the Legion]] are optimal magic resist items that give good Armor to make dodge chance worthwhile. Lastly, I advocate MS quints. I've never even SEEN MR quints. Can't go wrong with extra movement speed on a tank/melee champ. You're already planning to buy Magic Resist - Your quints are suppose to be helper stats for things you will LACK. I'm not against MR Glyphs because MR Glyphs are soooo goooood, but MR Quints aren't exactly the most obvious choice in my book.[/quote]

[quote=NinjaGinge]^I'm going to agree with most of that. Except maybe the ending. I feel like the objective of the helper stats depend on the category and champ being played. Some are just for heightened early game performance.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Jun, I recommend you watch Hotshot play some Galio. (he runs 9/0/21 btw, which imo is the best way to go too) [quote=JunSupport] Mana Regen per level Seals - Maximize the [[Chalice of Harmony]] you'll definitely buy. Chalice only works well if you already have Mana Regen on you.[/quote] No way.. Those are totally unnecessary. And besides, Chalice is optional, far from core.. [quote]Dodge Seals wouldn't be a bad idea either if you plan to skill down the Defensive mastery tree. [[Guardian Angel]] and/or [[Aegis of the Legion]] are optimal magic resist items that give good Armor to make dodge chance worthwhile.[/quote] Dodge seals would be a bad idea since they're not useful in the lane and don't really do much good later on either since you don't want your enemies to miss attacks when you taunt them, that makes you deal less damage.. [quote]Lastly, I advocate MS quints. I've never even SEEN MR quints. Can't go wrong with extra movement speed on a tank/melee champ.[/quote] Fuck no. That's just a bad idea. You get lots of MS from your E and 3%MS from the utility masteries to cover that anyways. [quote]I'm not against MR Glyphs because MR Glyphs are soooo goooood, but MR Quints aren't exactly the most obvious choice in my book.[/quote] MR quints are EVEN BETTER than MR glyphs. 3 MR quints give more MR than 9 glyphs (most quints give less). Your rune choices seem to be worked around the fact that you're using 0/21/9. They might be good for that, but those masteries are just way inferior to a 9/0/21 caster setup+tanky runes. He is a tanky caster after all.[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]As a fairly long time Galio player, here's the page I use just for him. Magic Penetration marks are a pretty obvious choice here. Allows you to do more magic damage, thus push down creep waves faster and hurt enemy champions. They are pretty cool. For seals I take mana regen per level. Since Galio struggles with mana problems through all phases of the game, I prefer to grab these. Lane sustainability is not a problem for Galio, however mana sustainability can be, especially if you elect to skip Chalice. Magic resist per level glyphs in my opinion are the best glyphs for tanky dps. Since Galio's passive synergizes with MR, you have even more reason to take them. You're going to be one tanky man late game, trust me. For quints I also like to take magic penetration. Since most of the time on Galio you aren't building ANY magic pen, you want to milk the most out of runes and masteries. Although Galio is mainly a tank, I just don't see any tank quints that are going to be worth forgoing a little bit more damage in all phases of the game. Copied from my upcoming guide :P In regards to the flat MR - Galio isn't really a lane winner. Unless you send him mid vs AP, boosted stats still wont win the lane for him, not with his mana pool. Galio is just a straight up farmer. If you spend your skills on harass you are going to run out of mana, chalice or not. AP isn't really going to boost the amount of skills you need to use to farm creeps(which is 2), so I don't think it's a worth while investment. MR/lvl quints are a possibility, but I still think mpen is probably gonna be better due to the amount of MR they will have built up.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Btw, what kind of masteries are you using? I'm using 9/0/21. [quote=EvilDice] Magic Penetration marks are a pretty obvious choice here. Allows you to do more magic damage, thus push down creep waves faster and hurt enemy champions.[/quote] Yes, they are the obvious choice, but they don't help with killing minions.. Minions have less than 8 MR. Also.. For the exact same reasons you think these are good you say that the MR quints are bad.. That's not making much sense... [quote]For seals I take mana regen per level. Since Galio struggles with mana problems through all phases of the game, I prefer to grab these. Lane sustainability is not a problem for Galio, however mana sustainability can be, especially if you elect to skip Chalice.[/quote] Hmmm.. I dunno. Galio can just push waves so well that he can go back for free in many matchups. But if he struggles enough... maybe. [quote]Magic resist per level glyphs in my opinion are the best glyphs for tanky dps. Since Galio's passive synergizes with MR, you have even more reason to take them. You're going to be one tanky man late game, trust me.[/quote] Flat MR is usually better when laning. Flat resistances are also more effective in most cases because of the diminishing returns. It seems like flat MR glyphs are the best choice, but I still can't say that I'm 100% sure about it. [quote]For quints I also like to take magic penetration. Since most of the time on Galio you aren't building ANY magic pen, you want to milk the most out of runes and masteries. Although Galio is mainly a tank, I just don't see any tank quints that are going to be worth forgoing a little bit more damage in all phases of the game. In regards to the flat MR - Galio isn't really a lane winner. Unless you send him mid vs AP, boosted stats still wont win the lane for him, not with his mana pool. Galio is just a straight up farmer. If you spend your skills on harass you are going to run out of mana, chalice or not. AP isn't really going to boost the amount of skills you need to use to farm creeps(which is 2), so I don't think it's a worth while investment. MR/lvl quints are a possibility, but I still think mpen is probably gonna be better due to the amount of MR they will have built up.[/quote] Well you're clearly misinformed.. AP quints give more damage in most cases. If you pick up MR quints and glyphs you get 13.5AP. AP quints give 15AP. You get about as much damage from MR quints and glyphs that you get from MrP quints. MR/lvl quints are pretty shitty. They give 48% more, but since MR/lvl glyphs are almost as good as MR glyphs with their 81% more it's pretty clear imo that MR/lvl quints are shit in comparison. [u]Flat MR quints are set in stone.[/u][/quote]

[quote=samgoeslol]hmmh ive just recently picked up galio and playing 0-9-21 (for min flash cd (thinking about 0-12-18 for SoS and nimble) my runes are currently my singed runes (mpen red dodge yellow, mr/lvl blue ms quints) prolly gonna switch ms quints for mr/mr/lvl if i decide to pick up galio for real. greez sam[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]FULL magic resit lawlz. Flat MR red, Flat MR yellows, MR per lvl blues, Flat MR quints. GET SOME!? In all seriousness though, HP per level yellows and I'd really consider the MR reds as well. Mpen reds is the more conventional choice, however.[/quote]