I don't even know what this tread has spiraled into... @_@
I'mma try to get back on topic...
Perfect world for me? Place where people can do whatever they want.
I don't **** with you, you don't **** with me, etc.
Honestly, "economics" was a lot better when we traded for things.
I don't think that what you have is worth what you want? I'll just try to change it. 'S not like that today. Pay what's wanted or not at all.
I'mma try to get back on topic...
Perfect world for me? Place where people can do whatever they want.
I don't **** with you, you don't **** with me, etc.
Honestly, "economics" was a lot better when we traded for things.
I don't think that what you have is worth what you want? I'll just try to change it. 'S not like that today. Pay what's wanted or not at all.
True love is found only in yourself.
Lugi: The trading system worked for small things that were important at the time. Like my sheep for two chickens sort of thing.
Today when companies own thousands upon thousands of sheep and don't need hundreds of thousands of chickens something else needs to be traded. Material things have different values, which is why money is so useful. Payments can be small, $50 for each sheep or hundreds of thousands of dollars for thousands of sheep.
Today when companies own thousands upon thousands of sheep and don't need hundreds of thousands of chickens something else needs to be traded. Material things have different values, which is why money is so useful. Payments can be small, $50 for each sheep or hundreds of thousands of dollars for thousands of sheep.
jhoijhoi wrote:
Custody: always (or, in most cases) goes to the homestayer. The person who is with the kids the most gets the kids, not the breadmaker. As I said earlier that's why many women received custody, due to being at home. Lately that has shifted, and many woman are losing custody of their children in order to have careers.
Women hitting men: o.O No offense to everyone out there, but if a woman hits you, are you really going to cry to the police? Wow. I don't see the problem with women hitting men and "getting away with it". I know that if I hit a male friend, they're going to hit me back and harder. I don't see what you're getting at that it's okay for women to hit men. It's most likely an accepted gender attribute because women can't hit for **** unless they're trained to? Unlike men who naturally have more muscle mass to the female body's fat mass.
Rape: =.= I meant in the cases where it was a normal sexual encounter (as in ***** into vagina, not strap on into anus or ***** into anus) but the man filed for rape. I did not include the scenario where a woman ties a man up and forces him to have sex, or where a man rapes another man. Someone said, "A woman cries rape and the man goes to jail" and I agree. A man can be mentally and maybe physically injured from the rape of a woman, but a woman who is raped can become pregnant from the encounter, which is far more serious than the consequences of that of a man getting raped - I believe that is the system that is in place.
As a woman who has been forced into sex on more than one occasion, I'm going to say that I never claimed it as rape because even though I didn't consent on a mental level, I let them do it anyway as who is going to believe me? I imagine this is the same case for a man, but even less obvious. If a man has an erection through any means, drugs, constant stimulation - it is hard to prove in court that they weren't enjoying it.
If a woman was raped, in many cases there is going to be internal bleeding and bruising and abrasions due to the woman not being lubricated during the intercourse. This is often an easy way to prove the sex was rough and not wanted.
The above is the reason why many people (and the court system) cannot believe/rule in favour of a woman that a man is raped (without the evidence of drugs etc in the man's system).
Promotion: I said once, in an offhand manner to a co-worker that my boss was racist for making me do more hard work than my white co-worker. This got back to my boss. I did not get promoted, in fact I got yelled at. Prime example that coloured woman cannot play a "race/gender" card to rise through the ranks.
Perfect World: Cannot exist because it would be imperfect. Perfect insinuates everything is as it should be and more in the eye of the thinker. Everyone's thoughts are different and this would produce random results. For example think of that Jim Carey movie where he became God. He just answered everyone's prayers with a "Yes". When everyone's dreams come true, they are turning upside down someone else's dreams creating this sort of paradox.
As someone who has experiences stuff like this 15000% during his life, let me apologize in advance if I offend you or anyone else.
Custody:
Women almost always get custody. For a variety of reasons, staying at home and not working is certainly one of those. However let's not forget that the mother can claim her husband abused her and the court will not investigate, that her husband is a drunkard (due to the misconception some people have that men drink more often then women) and this will only hurt the child, that the man in the relationship is to busy, etc. Even that a woman is just plain better at raising a child.
Women Hitting men:
This is EXACTLY what we are talking about. ****ing ****. A large majority of men won't hit a women due to their morals, and yet a large amount of women take advantage of men in various roles a ton. If a women hits a man, the man can't retaliate cause she's a woman, he's told to man up and take it, if he does hit her she complains to someone and he either loses the respect of everyone he's ever known, or goes to jail, or both. Yet a woman can do the same **** and go 'he hit me first!' and society cries out for justice.
Rape:
nononoo. You can't say women are automatically worse off in that situation then a man just because they MIGHT get pregnant. A man's insides will get internal bleeding, most likely infected, and there is a much higher chance of getting a STD then a woman. I would probably say that having Aids or HIV is worse then having a baby. Unlike a baby, it's a ton harder to get rid of them, if you even can (my knowledge is very limited on those lol).
And yes the psychological is there too, for both men and women, although I can say that men would probably be hurt a lot harder then a women, IMO. I suppose it's all opinion though, since personalities vary from victim to victim.
Promotion:
The fact remains that some Women can sleep with their bosses to rise through the ranks, which is much harder for a male to do.
Perfect World:
Isn't there already a game of this...?
Took one second to Google Search "CUSTODY WOMEN" for this to come up.
Why more and more women are losing custody battles over their children
Like millions of women of her generation, Karen Martin dared to believe that women really could have it all.
A high-flying creative director at a London advertising agency, she got married, had two children and while her husband, Mark, played the house husband, she was the family breadwinner.
For a while, this very modern arrangement appeared to be working out perfectly.
Then her husband had a fling with a single mother he met at a playgroup and Karen threw him out.
What followed was a traumatic court battle which saw a judge hand custody of her eight-year-old son and six-year-old daughter to their father, who lives on benefits in a council house.
To add insult to injury, the judge ordered Karen to pay maintenance to her former husband.
Kramer vs Kramer
Tug of war: Justin Henry and Dustin Hoffman in the film Kramer vs Kramer which involved a custody battle
'At the end of the court case, the children went home with him,' she says. 'I was utterly devastated. I virtually collapsed with shock.'
But 43-year-old Karen's story is far from unusual. Every year, the number of mothers who have little or no contact with their children is rising.
Increasingly, it seems, our courts are favouring husbands over career wives.
The latest Child Support Agency figures show that women are registered as the nonresident parent in 66,900 maintenance cases.
Of course we do not know the details of each story, but the support group Mothers Apart From Their Children (Match) says there are 150,000 mothers in Britain who do not live with their children.
Karen recalls how she was described in court by her former husband's barrister: 'He painted a picture of me as a hard-faced woman who was more interested in board meetings than school plays,' she says. 'It was so far from the truth.'
The reality, she says, was that her ex, a former building site foreman, had volunteered to stay at home with the children because they needed her six-figure salary to pay the mortgage on the family's three bedroom home in North London.
'After his affair, my employers were fantastic and accommodated my need to leave work on time to collect my children.
'The eldest was at school by then and I enrolled the youngest at a nursery. It was a major juggling act, but I was always there to feed and bath the children, and read them bedtime stories.
'I took them to nursery and school every morning and they saw their dad at weekends.'
Then, 18 months ago, the couple went head to head in court to fight for custody.
'Though Mark had not returned to work and was living with his parents in Gloucestershire, the judge ruled it was a more favourable environment for the children than living with a career mother,' says Karen.
'He lives in a council house on benefits. I'm speechless that the courts feel this is a better environment for my children to be raised in than living with a parent who has a strong work ethic and a lovely home.'
But observers point out that while the tide may appear to be turning against working women, this shift in custodial arrangements can be seen as a direct consequence of women's fight for equality in the workplace.
For years men who have fulfilled the traditional role of breadwinner have lost out when it comes to winning custody of their children - regardless of their income.
Now women have asserted their right to enjoy similarly challenging careers, the question of whether they have the right to complain when they lose custody is a pertinent one.
'There's no gender discrimination in the courts,' says Elizabeth Hicks, partner and head of family law at solicitors Irwin Mitchell.
'The roles of men and women have changed dramatically in recent years. A couple may decide it's more beneficial for a woman to work and a man to stay at home with the children.'
But there are consequences to this set-up. 'If that's how they have chosen to arrange their lives, why would it be fair that if they split up, the mother should get custody just because she is a woman?' says Ms Hicks.
'If the husband is the main carer during the marriage and it breaks down, it is likely that the court will seek to preserve that arrangement. The courts work on the basis of what is in the child's best interest and it is looked at on a case-by-case basis.'
Counsellor Sarah Hart, the author of a new book, A Mother Apart, is also aware of this backlash against working mothers.
'Custody versus career is so topical and an increasing number of career mothers are losing out in the family courts,' she says.
'The courts don't necessarily view a mother as a capable primary carer of her children if she also has a successful career.'
Jane Briggs, a former managing director of a beauty business, gave up her career on the advice of her solicitor when she became embroiled in a custody battle with her former husband, Jason.
'My solicitor advised me that it would go in my favour if I didn't work because I would gain the court's sympathy,' says the 47- year-old.
'I couldn't believe it. My career defined who I was. But I took my solicitor's advice, gave up the business and went to university to maintain my self-esteem.'
The couple got married in the mid-Eighties and had a son, Dominic, a year later.
Another year on, Jane returned to work to help pay the mortgage.
'But when Jason was promoted I took the opportunity to have a career break to be with Dominic,' says Jane.
'After a year of being at home, I yearned for my career again. I'd worked hard for it and had been so used to having money and independence.'
In the end, her career - and the fact her salary was double that of her husband's - became a major bone of contention in the marriage and the couple split when their son was five.
'At first, Jason went to live in London and we agreed Dominic would stay with me in Canterbury, but would see his father every weekend,' says Jane.
'Then Jason dropped the bombshell that he was applying for custody.'
Despite giving up her career, when Jane was in court she found she was being compared unfavourably to her husband and his new wife.
'In court, the judge mentioned my career and studies and the fact Dominic was left in afterschool clubs until I was able to collect him.
'The judge didn't care that having ambitions made me happy, which rubbed off positively on my relationship with Dominic.
'Jason's new wife had a nine-to-five job as an administrator, so the judge ruled that my son would have more of a family life with them.
'Incredibly, the court deemed that my aspirations made me as unfit a mother as my old, demanding career running a business. I wanted to scream. I was devastated. I've never recovered.'
At first, Jane saw Dominic at weekends. But she claims her former husband turned her son against her.
'He spent so much money on him, buying him the latest PlayStation and a puppy.
'Dominic became resentful when I wouldn't buy him things. One weekend, in 1998, he asked me to buy him computer games. When I refused, he phoned his dad and asked to go home.
'That was the last time I saw him. I wrote countless, countless letters to him that went unanswered. It was as if he had died.'
A decade has passed since then and Dominic is now 23. Jane, ironically, hasn't been able to work for five years due to the stress of losing her son.
But if women are only suffering what divorced fathers have experienced for decades, counsellor and author Sarah Hart points out that the stigma attached to women living apart from their children is far worse than it is for men.
'People assume they have abandoned their children or been deemed unfit mothers by the courts. They are perceived as bad mums, odd - possibly even heartless - selfish or cruel.
'Many keep it secret that they have children at all, such is the taboo that still surrounds a mother not living with her offspring. In reality, the circumstances surrounding a mother choosing to live apart from a child can be complex and emotionally charged.
'Decisions are often made very quickly in times of high stress, few resources and seemingly few choices. Grief, guilt, regret and stress are just a few of the emotions these women contend with.'
Family law expert Elizabeth Hicks adds: 'People assume that children will be with their mother, and there's still an element of surprise when they find out they're with their father.'
Jane Briggs, who is still undergoing counselling over losing her son, says: 'Society makes me feel ashamed that I'm not with my son.
'Other women are the worst critics and assume I must have done something wrong not to be with my child. I don't even know what he looks like now.'
Polly Coombs, 50, from Cambridge, also believes her career ultimately went against her when it came to custody of her children.
The publishing executive lost custody of her two daughters, now 18 and 16, two years ago after her marriage to former Army officer Adrian broke down.
She is bitter because while she bankrolled the six-bedroom farmhouse and private school fees, she also collected her daughters from nursery and took on the role of major carer.
'Even though he worked nine-to-five while I often wasn't home until 7pm or 8pm, I was the one who cooked for, bathed and clothed the girls and organised their social lives.
'But as far as the court was concerned, I was a wicked career woman who put her children second. It was utter rubbish: I simply wanted to have both.
'I listened open-mouthed in court as Adrian's barrister said that leaving my children in a nursery until I'd finished work made me an unfit mother.
'Never mind that I had a husband who was home from work before me, but still saw it as my role to collect the girls.'
When the girls were 16 and 14, they went to live with their father and his new wife.
'Although I miss the girls desperately, I've refused to engage in a tug of war because that would be unfair to them.
'What astonishes me is that since custody was awarded to Adrian, he hasn't worked and they live in a modest rented house, but the courts still deem him a better role model than me.
'Although I was granted the access the girls requested, they have little interest in spending time with me. I've seen them only twice since Christmas.'
Polly has discovered that society is unforgiving of a mother who does not live with her children and has had counselling to come to terms with her loss.
So, does she regret her career in publishing? 'I bitterly regret how my career has been used against me,' she says. 'I know that if I'd worked part-time, the divorce courts would have looked at me more favourably.
'Why should I be penalised for having a career as well as children?'
Men might point out they have been on the receiving end of such treatment for decades.
On the other hand, it could be argued that thanks to spiralling living costs, in today's society many women are working full-time and shouldering most of the parenting responsibilities.
One thing is clear: the subversion of traditional roles in the home and at work may be a cause for celebration for feminists, but women themselves are suffering damaging side-effects.
Karen Martin says her 'saving grace' is that she sees her children every weekend. She refuses to talk about regrets.
'Why should I?' she says. 'Society deems it's fine for men to work and have children, so why shouldn't women have that right, too?'
But the truth, however unpalatable, is that equality goes both ways.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024304/Why-more-women-losing-custody-battles-children.html#ixzz1aX2u3sZ0
Why more and more women are losing custody battles over their children
Like millions of women of her generation, Karen Martin dared to believe that women really could have it all.
A high-flying creative director at a London advertising agency, she got married, had two children and while her husband, Mark, played the house husband, she was the family breadwinner.
For a while, this very modern arrangement appeared to be working out perfectly.
Then her husband had a fling with a single mother he met at a playgroup and Karen threw him out.
What followed was a traumatic court battle which saw a judge hand custody of her eight-year-old son and six-year-old daughter to their father, who lives on benefits in a council house.
To add insult to injury, the judge ordered Karen to pay maintenance to her former husband.
Kramer vs Kramer
Tug of war: Justin Henry and Dustin Hoffman in the film Kramer vs Kramer which involved a custody battle
'At the end of the court case, the children went home with him,' she says. 'I was utterly devastated. I virtually collapsed with shock.'
But 43-year-old Karen's story is far from unusual. Every year, the number of mothers who have little or no contact with their children is rising.
Increasingly, it seems, our courts are favouring husbands over career wives.
The latest Child Support Agency figures show that women are registered as the nonresident parent in 66,900 maintenance cases.
Of course we do not know the details of each story, but the support group Mothers Apart From Their Children (Match) says there are 150,000 mothers in Britain who do not live with their children.
Karen recalls how she was described in court by her former husband's barrister: 'He painted a picture of me as a hard-faced woman who was more interested in board meetings than school plays,' she says. 'It was so far from the truth.'
The reality, she says, was that her ex, a former building site foreman, had volunteered to stay at home with the children because they needed her six-figure salary to pay the mortgage on the family's three bedroom home in North London.
'After his affair, my employers were fantastic and accommodated my need to leave work on time to collect my children.
'The eldest was at school by then and I enrolled the youngest at a nursery. It was a major juggling act, but I was always there to feed and bath the children, and read them bedtime stories.
'I took them to nursery and school every morning and they saw their dad at weekends.'
Then, 18 months ago, the couple went head to head in court to fight for custody.
'Though Mark had not returned to work and was living with his parents in Gloucestershire, the judge ruled it was a more favourable environment for the children than living with a career mother,' says Karen.
'He lives in a council house on benefits. I'm speechless that the courts feel this is a better environment for my children to be raised in than living with a parent who has a strong work ethic and a lovely home.'
But observers point out that while the tide may appear to be turning against working women, this shift in custodial arrangements can be seen as a direct consequence of women's fight for equality in the workplace.
For years men who have fulfilled the traditional role of breadwinner have lost out when it comes to winning custody of their children - regardless of their income.
Now women have asserted their right to enjoy similarly challenging careers, the question of whether they have the right to complain when they lose custody is a pertinent one.
'There's no gender discrimination in the courts,' says Elizabeth Hicks, partner and head of family law at solicitors Irwin Mitchell.
'The roles of men and women have changed dramatically in recent years. A couple may decide it's more beneficial for a woman to work and a man to stay at home with the children.'
But there are consequences to this set-up. 'If that's how they have chosen to arrange their lives, why would it be fair that if they split up, the mother should get custody just because she is a woman?' says Ms Hicks.
'If the husband is the main carer during the marriage and it breaks down, it is likely that the court will seek to preserve that arrangement. The courts work on the basis of what is in the child's best interest and it is looked at on a case-by-case basis.'
Counsellor Sarah Hart, the author of a new book, A Mother Apart, is also aware of this backlash against working mothers.
'Custody versus career is so topical and an increasing number of career mothers are losing out in the family courts,' she says.
'The courts don't necessarily view a mother as a capable primary carer of her children if she also has a successful career.'
Jane Briggs, a former managing director of a beauty business, gave up her career on the advice of her solicitor when she became embroiled in a custody battle with her former husband, Jason.
'My solicitor advised me that it would go in my favour if I didn't work because I would gain the court's sympathy,' says the 47- year-old.
'I couldn't believe it. My career defined who I was. But I took my solicitor's advice, gave up the business and went to university to maintain my self-esteem.'
The couple got married in the mid-Eighties and had a son, Dominic, a year later.
Another year on, Jane returned to work to help pay the mortgage.
'But when Jason was promoted I took the opportunity to have a career break to be with Dominic,' says Jane.
'After a year of being at home, I yearned for my career again. I'd worked hard for it and had been so used to having money and independence.'
In the end, her career - and the fact her salary was double that of her husband's - became a major bone of contention in the marriage and the couple split when their son was five.
'At first, Jason went to live in London and we agreed Dominic would stay with me in Canterbury, but would see his father every weekend,' says Jane.
'Then Jason dropped the bombshell that he was applying for custody.'
Despite giving up her career, when Jane was in court she found she was being compared unfavourably to her husband and his new wife.
'In court, the judge mentioned my career and studies and the fact Dominic was left in afterschool clubs until I was able to collect him.
'The judge didn't care that having ambitions made me happy, which rubbed off positively on my relationship with Dominic.
'Jason's new wife had a nine-to-five job as an administrator, so the judge ruled that my son would have more of a family life with them.
'Incredibly, the court deemed that my aspirations made me as unfit a mother as my old, demanding career running a business. I wanted to scream. I was devastated. I've never recovered.'
At first, Jane saw Dominic at weekends. But she claims her former husband turned her son against her.
'He spent so much money on him, buying him the latest PlayStation and a puppy.
'Dominic became resentful when I wouldn't buy him things. One weekend, in 1998, he asked me to buy him computer games. When I refused, he phoned his dad and asked to go home.
'That was the last time I saw him. I wrote countless, countless letters to him that went unanswered. It was as if he had died.'
A decade has passed since then and Dominic is now 23. Jane, ironically, hasn't been able to work for five years due to the stress of losing her son.
But if women are only suffering what divorced fathers have experienced for decades, counsellor and author Sarah Hart points out that the stigma attached to women living apart from their children is far worse than it is for men.
'People assume they have abandoned their children or been deemed unfit mothers by the courts. They are perceived as bad mums, odd - possibly even heartless - selfish or cruel.
'Many keep it secret that they have children at all, such is the taboo that still surrounds a mother not living with her offspring. In reality, the circumstances surrounding a mother choosing to live apart from a child can be complex and emotionally charged.
'Decisions are often made very quickly in times of high stress, few resources and seemingly few choices. Grief, guilt, regret and stress are just a few of the emotions these women contend with.'
Family law expert Elizabeth Hicks adds: 'People assume that children will be with their mother, and there's still an element of surprise when they find out they're with their father.'
Jane Briggs, who is still undergoing counselling over losing her son, says: 'Society makes me feel ashamed that I'm not with my son.
'Other women are the worst critics and assume I must have done something wrong not to be with my child. I don't even know what he looks like now.'
Polly Coombs, 50, from Cambridge, also believes her career ultimately went against her when it came to custody of her children.
The publishing executive lost custody of her two daughters, now 18 and 16, two years ago after her marriage to former Army officer Adrian broke down.
She is bitter because while she bankrolled the six-bedroom farmhouse and private school fees, she also collected her daughters from nursery and took on the role of major carer.
'Even though he worked nine-to-five while I often wasn't home until 7pm or 8pm, I was the one who cooked for, bathed and clothed the girls and organised their social lives.
'But as far as the court was concerned, I was a wicked career woman who put her children second. It was utter rubbish: I simply wanted to have both.
'I listened open-mouthed in court as Adrian's barrister said that leaving my children in a nursery until I'd finished work made me an unfit mother.
'Never mind that I had a husband who was home from work before me, but still saw it as my role to collect the girls.'
When the girls were 16 and 14, they went to live with their father and his new wife.
'Although I miss the girls desperately, I've refused to engage in a tug of war because that would be unfair to them.
'What astonishes me is that since custody was awarded to Adrian, he hasn't worked and they live in a modest rented house, but the courts still deem him a better role model than me.
'Although I was granted the access the girls requested, they have little interest in spending time with me. I've seen them only twice since Christmas.'
Polly has discovered that society is unforgiving of a mother who does not live with her children and has had counselling to come to terms with her loss.
So, does she regret her career in publishing? 'I bitterly regret how my career has been used against me,' she says. 'I know that if I'd worked part-time, the divorce courts would have looked at me more favourably.
'Why should I be penalised for having a career as well as children?'
Men might point out they have been on the receiving end of such treatment for decades.
On the other hand, it could be argued that thanks to spiralling living costs, in today's society many women are working full-time and shouldering most of the parenting responsibilities.
One thing is clear: the subversion of traditional roles in the home and at work may be a cause for celebration for feminists, but women themselves are suffering damaging side-effects.
Karen Martin says her 'saving grace' is that she sees her children every weekend. She refuses to talk about regrets.
'Why should I?' she says. 'Society deems it's fine for men to work and have children, so why shouldn't women have that right, too?'
But the truth, however unpalatable, is that equality goes both ways.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024304/Why-more-women-losing-custody-battles-children.html#ixzz1aX2u3sZ0
jhoijhoi wrote:
Took one second to Google Search "CUSTODY WOMEN" for this to come up.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024304/Why-more-women-losing-custody-battles-children.html#ixzz1aX2u3sZ0
How your post should've looked like.
Ms. Jhoijhoi, tear down this wall-of-text.
Also, lol biased news source.
Not even going to bother quoting that.
But you know what?
Same ****ing thing happen to fathers every day, at least as often as they happen to women.
And oh wait. What was that? You quote a news story that is obviously biased towards women, uhuh. I see no version of the fathers story, do I? Nope. Nothing there.
Do we see anything from the father confirming that story of the womens? No. Why should I believe that article has any truth in it at all? It's even from the 'femail' section of the site.
Show me something from the Globe and Mail that's unbiased and says the same things, and i'll actually give you my own answer about that stuff.
But you know what?
Same ****ing thing happen to fathers every day, at least as often as they happen to women.
And oh wait. What was that? You quote a news story that is obviously biased towards women, uhuh. I see no version of the fathers story, do I? Nope. Nothing there.
Do we see anything from the father confirming that story of the womens? No. Why should I believe that article has any truth in it at all? It's even from the 'femail' section of the site.
Show me something from the Globe and Mail that's unbiased and says the same things, and i'll actually give you my own answer about that stuff.
Toshabi: It details the issues for men and women. There are about three cases mentioned there surrounding different custody cases and the reasons why men recieved custody. There is a brief history of custody battles and why women used to win, and why more men are winning in today's society. As a well-researched piece, I would say that while yes, it's written to appeal to the female demographic, I wouldn't go so far as to say it was biased.
I copypasta'd because some people are too lazy to click links. Myself included. However, this is a good reason to ask Matt for spoiler tags again :)
Perfect World: Guides for new champions on MobaFire would not be written until the champion had been out for at least a few weeks.
I copypasta'd because some people are too lazy to click links. Myself included. However, this is a good reason to ask Matt for spoiler tags again :)
Perfect World: Guides for new champions on MobaFire would not be written until the champion had been out for at least a few weeks.
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Just don't be one of those crazy *** ones...
Would like to argue with some points... But i am to tired...
Just one thing... Just becouse a man "enjoys it" doesn't make it any less of a rape...