Ok, I take it that you don't wanna learn how to properly calculate attack damage with crit included then? Courtesy is more beneficial than discourtesy. Ask and you might learn something.
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I´ll repeat it, just for you, once more:
Armor pen lvl1: 25armor pen, 2%crit, 52AD
20armor: (52 * 0,98 + 52 * 2 * 0,02) * (1-(0/100)) = 53,04
50armor: (52 * 0,98 + 52 * 2 * 0,02) * (1-(25/125)) = 42,43
Crit lvl1: 0armor pen, 15,95%crit and 52AD
20armor: (52 * 0,8405 + 52 * 2 * 0,1595) * (1-(20/120)) = 50,25
50armor: (52 * 0,8405 + 52 * 2 * 0,1595) * (1-(50/150)) = 40,2
Where did the 2% crit chance come from?
And once more:
Maybe it seems like i make a huge one out of this, but hey i am not the one trying to bring the other down with sentences like: "Doesn't matter. Using correct calculations and numbers will bring correct answers. You use neither." Okay? So if you wanna sound serious try packing some issue behind that mask of words.
Armor pen lvl1: 25armor pen, 2%crit, 52AD
20armor: (52 * 0,98 + 52 * 2 * 0,02) * (1-(0/100)) = 53,04
50armor: (52 * 0,98 + 52 * 2 * 0,02) * (1-(25/125)) = 42,43
Crit lvl1: 0armor pen, 15,95%crit and 52AD
20armor: (52 * 0,8405 + 52 * 2 * 0,1595) * (1-(20/120)) = 50,25
50armor: (52 * 0,8405 + 52 * 2 * 0,1595) * (1-(50/150)) = 40,2
Where did the 2% crit chance come from?
And once more:
Maybe it seems like i make a huge one out of this, but hey i am not the one trying to bring the other down with sentences like: "Doesn't matter. Using correct calculations and numbers will bring correct answers. You use neither." Okay? So if you wanna sound serious try packing some issue behind that mask of words.
I've been trying to stop this for 4pages now...
Edit: I never said what "this" was :P
Edit: I never said what "this" was :P
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@Oberron
Playing LoL often enough to argue on this thread but dont know that there isnt base crit/crit per level anymore....?
I don't want to hear it from you. Every last post you have in this forum is in this thread. Maybe if you had some manners, I wouldn't be upset with this comment. I play tanks or AD based chars. I care nothing for crit just because it has 0 reliability. It's just like Playing a Lightning vs Fire Sorc in Diablo 2. Lightning skills do 1-4k dmg, Fire skills do 1.5-2.5k dmg. I prefer reliability. Therefore, why would I know (or care) about base crit?
Searz, I only go for Brutalizer on Panth. Usually forsake all other items until I get it (either 5 or 6) because I almost always have a kill or two by then. My trist build relies on Madred's Razor. With Malphite, I always tank. I always get boots first as a tank. That's why I said I never have 50 armor by level 5. Tanks aren't money machines... I have to rely on assists for cash, and level up for MR/AR until mid-late game.
Oberron wrote:
Searz, I only go for Brutalizer on Panth. Usually forsake all other items until I get it (either 5 or 6) because I almost always have a kill or two by then. My trist build relies on Madred's Razor. With Malphite, I always tank. I always get boots first as a tank. That's why I said I never have 50 armor by level 5. Tanks aren't money machines... I have to rely on assists for cash, and level up for MR/AR until mid-late game.
What I meant was that I thought that it was early for a Brutalizer, not that I think it's strange to not reach 50armor by level5.
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I care nothing for crit just because it has 0 reliability.
Gearing for crit is very good for champs that have no physical abilities.
Tristana for example will have a higher average damage output with crit items since none of her abilities are physical. I certainly don't advice against Madred's Bloodrazor/ Madred's Razors, but I do recommend getting some crit too.I can't guarantee these stats, but I'm pretty sure that it will be that way as crit would be totally useless otherwise. Mostly because Riot is doing a pretty good job at balancing most things.
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@ Oberron
Didnt want to blame you for your playing style, but that you talking about things fiercly without getting some infos first.
@ Searz
Just wanted to hear that from you.
Playing DPS Champ and giving out an "average" calc with deadliness means that you use a full attack mastery. Thats whats missing.
And of course you can leave it out completly, if you wish to do so ...
Didnt want to blame you for your playing style, but that you talking about things fiercly without getting some infos first.
@ Searz
Just wanted to hear that from you.
Playing DPS Champ and giving out an "average" calc with deadliness means that you use a full attack mastery. Thats whats missing.
And of course you can leave it out completly, if you wish to do so ...
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If thats really your answer, even after i repeated it the 2nd time, you just proof me more and more right that you think of your calcs (and mostly everything else) as absolute.
You didnt even try to understand what i was saying back than.
So what is that arrogant one, that couldnt even take some criticisms?
"Where did the 2% crit chance come from?"
(And btw. I only took that one reproach, cause it seems to be the worst one)