Sivir upcoming

[quote=PotatisFarfar]So i learned how to do all that step micro for nothing? -.-.................... I thought sivir was kinda ok as she was. People just didn't understand that she was not meant for bottom lane, she was meant for solo top or mid.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Apparently, now all the bounces apply on-hits and, the attack is stronger initially. Not really sure how this is going to turn out but, ok.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse][quote=Lugignaf] Apparently, now all the bounces apply on-hits and, the attack is stronger initially. Not really sure how this is going to turn out but, ok. [/quote] For real -.o ? Madreds + CDR Sivir ftw... "Hey Joe, what are you doing?" "Well, nothing rly. Playing Sivir, doing mainly magic dmg while hitting anyone." "True, true." Nah not rly, but on the other hand under those circumstances Madreds seems a must on her. What about Sheen/TF then? Only applying on the first target?[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport][quote=The_Nameless_Bard] This takes away some of Sivir's utility. One of the main awesome things about her as she is now is the fact that people are required to build both armor and MR to deal with you. They can't just stack one stat and call it good. All people will have to do to counter her if she gets fed is build armor, and that annoys me. [/quote] If this has any merit, then [[Riven]], [[Talon]], and [[Urgot]] are lame easy-to-counter champions. Oh wait... [quote=Lugignaf] Apparently, now all the bounces apply on-hits and, the attack is stronger initially. [/quote] [[Ricochet]] applying on-hit effects on the bounces is unconfirmed. Just speculation. edit: Guinsoo's confirmed that Ricochet deals bonus damage as well - That means on-hit effects probably won't be applied... The first auto-attack will probably still be normal though.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]lol Jun? Riven is countered mid game and early game by simply building chain vest. rofl.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]oh and @ Sivir change, parts of it I like, parts of it I don't :/ Like the range for sure, Rico seems OK, mainly worried about Q. Physical damage means less of an early game threat without full arpen...overall liking the changes though. As I recall though they are going to change E so it no longer refunds mana and gives AD :/ Not liking that at ALL. Why do that when they want an aggressive lane >.>[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport][quote=Nighthawk] lol Jun? Riven is countered mid game and early game by simply building chain vest. rofl. [/quote] LOL! If Riven makes you to buy a Chain vest early game, then she's already done her job. She's rocked you so hard that you're forced divert 700+ gold away from your optimal build as a Caster or Carry (or even Support). Put a little more thought into your post next time? Seemed like you were awfully sure of yourself with that one.[/quote]

[quote=mastajdog][quote=Nighthawk] oh and @ Sivir change, parts of it I like, parts of it I don't :/ Like the range for sure, Rico seems OK, mainly worried about Q. Physical damage means less of an early game threat without full arpen...overall liking the changes though. As I recall though they are going to change E so it no longer refunds mana and gives AD :/ Not liking that at ALL. Why do that when they want an aggressive lane >.> [/quote] i'm appriciating it. more like noc's [[shroud of darkness]], which is the same but doubles the passive bonus as. same deal, really. makes it a much better thing. but i'll just have to wait and see.[/quote]

[quote=Svingas]I feel like altogether this will probably be a buff for Sivir. In the video Riot states that they are adjusting her stats not just her range so I am expected a slightly higher damage stat to make up for the riochet rework. And depending on what they actually do with her spell shield it could be good and bad. If it is a buff to AD rather than restoring mana it may make her more mana hungry early game, but it should help a lot with her team-fighting.[/quote]

[quote=Svingas]WOW! Nvm, they just released the Patch Notes and they strongly nerfed Sivir a champion who was already one of the weaker. R.I.P. Sivir It was nice learning the game with you and having you as a nice fall-back champion. I hope you get a buff sometime in the future so that I may see you again at some point.[/quote]