Hextech on Swain?

[quote=CasterMaster][[hextech gunblade]] is not a very good item on [[swain]]. It's powerful but the amount of money used for it is not worth it. AD is not necessary for him and [[will of the ancients]] gives you the spell vamp you need. The active can be replaced with [[rylai's crystal scepter]] or [[deathfire grasp]] IMO. It's a good item, don't get me wrong, but for its price, no.[/quote]

[quote=Kurt_Ottman]I mainly get it for it's utility, and for the increased possibility to farm once you get a [[Pickaxe]]. Lets face it, [[Swain]] has lame autoattacks, so I decided to buff that, and I think it's certainly worth it. I just can't prove it yet :P[/quote]

[quote=CasterMaster]A caster doesn't need to auto-attack for damage. Their damage comes from their skills which is usually the whole point[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Cost for HG: 3600 Cost for Deathcap: 3600 If you want to farm, get the deathcap and [[nevermove]] the whole wave.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Kurt_Ottman] I mainly get it for it's utility, and for the increased possibility to farm once you get a [[Pickaxe]]. Lets face it, [[Swain]] has lame autoattacks, so I decided to buff that, and I think it's certainly worth it. I just can't prove it yet :P [/quote] Brb playing hextech gunblade leblanc.[/quote]

[quote=Kurt_Ottman]I like your sarcastic and non-constructive remarks Luther, they make my day.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]No problem. I like your ignorant and uninformed remarks that pay no attention to anything that disagrees with your idea.[/quote]

[quote=Kurt_Ottman]That's the point, if I listened to you guys, nothing new would happen ever. I've tried the old ways, and I like to find new ways to go about things. Don't think I've never tried boots and three pots, I just don't feel they compliment what I'm trying to achieve here :)[/quote]

[quote=lifebaka]No, Kurt, if you listened to us fewer stupid things would happen. By disregarding the way things are commonly done, you're assuming that you know better than the millions of permutations that [i]have already been tried[/i] before people arrived at the current thinking. What people commonly do works, and because it's already been bugtested by an [u]extremely[/u] large number of eyes, it's probably pretty damn close to perfect. This isn't to say that you can't find something better, but the odds say that you won't. In general, if everyone is doing it, there's probably a damn good reason.[/quote]

[quote=Queso]hextech gunblade only provides two useful stats to swain: AP and Spell vamp, and you can get those for 1,500 gold cheaper by buying a WotA at some point. The slow is completely pointless when you already have your own slow & a root too. The lifesteal is worthless on him all game long and will not help you even early game against anyone even halfway okay at this game. 10 times out of 10, boots and 3 pots will be more useful to start with, then you back and buy catalyst and BAM, sustain problem solved. And do I really need to say that the AD is worthless on Swain? And for having an item with an active damage component because of swain's Torment, well DFG would be way better to theory craft.[/quote]