Champion Relaunch: Katarina, the Sinister Blade

[quote=tribness]Katarina one of my beloved champ's, she was very viable if you knew how to play her smart, everybody QQ on champ select every time i pick her.. but in the end of the game i had carried them hard.. I do like that she has a new skill on her W but i fear that they have lowered the damage on the others skills to much. she don't bring utility to the table, all that she got was her high damage, and if they take that away i think they will kill her.. but i trust riot and i believe they will do a good job with her. Hope people stop QQ about katarina[/quote]

[quote=DuskToGlory]damn you riot why you break what didn't need fixing, I mean I understand adding a damage ability then nerfing damage on her other skilld to compensate, but it sounds as if they nerfed them too hard. If you arre going to relaunch an old champ you might as well make sure they are not underwhelming as what it sounds like. I haven't tried her out myself though so I can't be sure ofc.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=tribness] Katarina one of my beloved champ's, she was very viable if you knew how to play her smart [/quote] People said the same about the old Twitch, but he needed a rework too.[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]Current Kata is fine... And about twitch, from what I've seen he's a lot weaker now.....[/quote]

[quote=Xenotechie][quote=Acid Reigns] After looking into this, I can say so far I'm VERY unexcited for this. They should've just updated the visuals, and kept her the same, she's gonna suck now. Q is now weaker, and doesn't scale with AD anymore. W is apparently kinda weak. E took a HUGE hit, much lower base damage, and like 3.5 or something ridiculous off the ratio. R is weaker overall, but has higer dps, spinning for 2 secs now instead of 3. Edit Overall, her passive is weaker due to gold gain Q is worse W is better, but doesn't fit with her kit at all E is worse R is better, but it's less rewarding [/quote] Where did you find the ratios? If you found them on the PBE, could someone post them here? EDIT: Nevermind, found them, [url=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IGr2BEx7JqQ/UCSsf7GCrnI/AAAAAAAAAc4/pu2cJEGTNSY/s1600/katarina+ratios.png]here[/url] they are for the convenience of others. Don't get your complaints, really. Looks like they intend for Q to be more of a marking ability for AD Kat, and [[Shunpo]] to be a gap closer/damage reducer. They want her to deal damage with W and [[Death Lotus]]. They probably want her to get to someone and keep chasing him with her autoattacks and W.[/quote]

[quote=SkullzX]OK I just found this...btw I am kinda pissed that from the looks of it she doesnt get extra gold off kills/assist -__- and its only 10 second cd on her ult now! GAGHWAGHAWGH. Thing that anoys me most is hear base stats are all sooo much lower now and the scaling for most of them have dropped A LOT, plus the damage reduction is way less then the orignal 35%! I don't think I will like her after this remake I am sorry. Maybe I will, I definitly will try her but just from reading about her new stuff I don't think I will enjoy her as much since she will die fast and deals less early damage with dounching blades and shunpo. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2458632 BAM A LINK! Btw if that 1.75 ap ratio sticks ohh man is my rylais abysall gun blade build going to be sooooo much more fun![/quote]

[quote=Xenotechie]Ok, guys, apparently, they will be reworking [[Garen]] this patch too! Read [url=http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/21233-pbe-patch-rengar-katarina-rework-garen-changes]this![/url]... and it looks like a nerf to his damage, but a buff to his tankiness.[/quote]

[quote=SkullzX]little more tanky early but, less late not a huge deal but damn just relized that W max is over 40% MS boost...maybe I can swap my ms quints...NAH SUPER FAST KAT GO![/quote]

[quote=Mastarwe]And... they moved the only utility she had from a basic skill to the ult. This, aswell as lacking the ability to get rid of the bouncing blades dmg reduction will make her a way weaker laner, since you actually have to get close to pop the mark and use the other abilities :( It will make it way easier for other mid champs to harass her (which is more of the counterplay they are talking about in the post). I've got a feeling that this will be another bad rework, but let's just hope I'm wrong.[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido]See Page 5 for my play experience.[/quote]