Brutilizer - Why are AD Carries rushing this?

[quote=jhoijhoi]Groans, I just noticed I did it wrong again, too quick to reply =.= I meant 1550 saved up, not 1550 straight up. Check back. My point was: ADC1 with 1550g on recall: Brutalizer + 600 gold worth of junk (anything, boots?) ADC2 with 1550g on recall: Long Sword + BF Sword Completely unrealistic anyway, I doubt Nick recalls and rushes back to lane with only a Brutalizer, and I doubt any sensible ADC would buy Long Sword into BF Sword.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=jhoijhoi] Groans, I just noticed I did it wrong again, too quick to reply =.= [/quote] An example I meant was; for example both AD carries go back with roughly 2200 gold. The [[Draven]] feels confident and gets a [[The Brutalizer]] plus a [[Vampiric Scepter]] for sustain. The [[Ezreal]] wants his BT up ASAP so gets a [[B. F. Sword]] and a [[Long Sword]] which should later build into [[Vampiric Scepter]]. In this scenario, [[Ezreal]] has a serious disadvantage because he traded sustain for a little extra damage.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]Completely unrealistic anyway, I doubt any sensible ADC would buy Long Sword into BF Sword, and not Long Sword into Vamp Scepter if they're rushing Bloodthirster ^^[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=jhoijhoi] Completely unrealistic anyway, I doubt any sensible ADC would buy Long Sword into BF Sword, and not Long Sword into Vamp Scepter if they're rushing Bloodthirster ^^ [/quote] Same is returning to the lane with nothing and save up for that BF. Which is a scenario you suggested. I know it isn't realistic but it illustrates the point.[/quote]

[quote=astrolia]Staying in lane until you have 1550 gold is actually a realistic situation if you are completely beating the crap out of the enemy AD carry. Usually the way it goes down is that their jungler fails a gank, you get double buff, and you just stay there doing whatever you please. But then they are going to have way less gold than you, so this isn't really "equal".[/quote]

[quote=Embracing][quote=GrandmasterD] In this scenario, [[Ezreal]] has a serious disadvantage because he traded sustain for a little extra damage. [/quote] ^^^^^^^ YES. People who attempt to use math for itemization PLEASE add factor in lane control. Lane control is one big portion I see no "math guy" ever attempting to put in. Math isn't all about damage comparisons and resistance comparisons.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Embracing] [quote=GrandmasterD] In this scenario, [[Ezreal]] has a serious disadvantage because he traded sustain for a little extra damage. [/quote] ^^^^^^^ People who attempt to use math for itemization PLEASE add in lane control. [/quote] As I said; completely unrealistic scenario but it does illustrate how math has its limits, unfortunately. :P[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Yeah, there just are that group of people who seem to think math is almighty which honestly really gets on my nerves. -3-[/quote]

[quote=Laggermeister]I build it on [[graves]] frequently, usually midgame-ish after either completing [[the bloodthirster]] or at least a [[B. F. Sword]]. Think it's good on him because he can utilize the bit of extra health and CDR better than some carries.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=jhoijhoi] Completely unrealistic anyway, I doubt any sensible ADC would buy Long Sword into BF Sword, and not Long Sword into Vamp Scepter if they're rushing Bloodthirster ^^ [/quote] You obviously haven't seen me play Graves.[/quote]