GREAT stuff.
Somethin i was always wondering could be done on graphs too (if you have time ofc)
Builds for Karthus ultimate vs Mres.
Basic builds will consist of:
4xStaff/Sorc boots/Rabadon's Deathcap
vs
other builds (like consisting Void Staff and so on, and maybe the value of sorceror boots vs CDR boots for ultimate.
Somethin i was always wondering could be done on graphs too (if you have time ofc)
Builds for Karthus ultimate vs Mres.
Basic builds will consist of:
4xStaff/Sorc boots/Rabadon's Deathcap
vs
other builds (like consisting Void Staff and so on, and maybe the value of sorceror boots vs CDR boots for ultimate.
DEWO wrote:
4xStaff/Sorc boots/Rabadon's Deathcap
vs
other builds (like consisting Void Staff and so on, and maybe the value of sorceror boots vs CDR boots for ultimate.
I'll make 2 graphs for that. 4xstaff vs others and Sorc boots vs CDR. Tho 4xstaff is kinda stupid.. It's insanely easy to counter. 3xstaff is the only thing I think may pay off.
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Well 4x Staff is still best for building raw AP, and btw what do you mean by "countering" a staff build?
It is ******ed idea but works on Karthus and it is mainly for the Ulti calculations.
Also i was wondering about the utility of Void staff on Karthus, since you cant rely on Abysal Scepter due to AoE range.
It is ******ed idea but works on Karthus and it is mainly for the Ulti calculations.
Also i was wondering about the utility of Void staff on Karthus, since you cant rely on Abysal Scepter due to AoE range.
Why can't you rely on
Abyssal Mask?
4xStaff is incredibly easy to counter with magic resist. One MR item will drag the damage below the damage a
Void Staff+3xStaff gives.
I will make this graph for you since I've already started, but it would be great if everyone learned how to make their own graphs. Try it yourself and I'll fill you in on anything you don't get.

4xStaff is incredibly easy to counter with magic resist. One MR item will drag the damage below the damage a

I will make this graph for you since I've already started, but it would be great if everyone learned how to make their own graphs. Try it yourself and I'll fill you in on anything you don't get.
I'm a strong independent black mage who don't need no mana.
Becouse Abyssal Scepter has an AoE Aura, and its not globas as your ulti is :)
Most common MR is Banshee so if we take 50MR
4th staff will give you about 250AP
Void gives 70AP
so do you think that 40% mpen on som1 that bought banshee with 50MR will be better than 180AP?
this are the questions i'd love to see answered with your graphs :)
I just aksed you for the graph since you already had expirience with it. Ofc will try to make mine too coz i think it is a great tool, just didnt have enaugh time.
Thx for some usefull topic read (at least one once a year happens here :P )
Most common MR is Banshee so if we take 50MR
4th staff will give you about 250AP
Void gives 70AP
so do you think that 40% mpen on som1 that bought banshee with 50MR will be better than 180AP?
this are the questions i'd love to see answered with your graphs :)
I just aksed you for the graph since you already had expirience with it. Ofc will try to make mine too coz i think it is a great tool, just didnt have enaugh time.
Thx for some usefull topic read (at least one once a year happens here :P )
DEWO wrote:
Becouse Abyssal Scepter has an AoE Aura, and its not globas as your ulti is :)
Oh my god >.> I totally forgot about that. I can't believe I didn't think about that..
Quoted:
4th staff will give you about 250AP
It actually gives almost exactly 200AP.
Quoted:
so do you think that 40% mpen on som1 that bought banshee with 50MR will be better than 180AP?
I know it is. I've made the graphs, but they're at my stationary comp. I'll upload them as soon as I can. If I remember correctly Void Staff deals more damage above about 60MR, so one cheap MR item is even enough.

DEWO wrote:
Did you count the Rabadan bonus with it? I am more than sure that it will give about 250
I'm counting that on the total amount, not on each item. After all, the bonus is from deathcap, not the staffs.
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Legend
AS = Attack Speed
DPS = Damage Per Second
CrC = Crit Chance
CrD = Crit Damage
AD = Attack Damage
ArP = Armor Penetration
ArR = Armor Reduction
MrP = Magic Penetration
MrR = Magic Reduction
AP = Ability Power
MR = Magic Resist
/lvl = Per level. A bonus that is divided over all your levels with a part given each level.
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Making your own graphs
Want to compare the damage of two items, different rune types or anything else? Follow the instructions below!
You can download the graphing program I use here.
I'm gonna mention some formulas so that you can use them to make your own comparisons.
I use an estimated base AS and AS per lvl in the formula with AS. (it might not be up to date tho)
Just add all the stats from your items and base stats to the functions (the formulas above) and you'll be making nice graphs in no time!
A few tips for making them prettier: