@sirell

If you are looking for a more tank build then take a look at my tank tab. However I find that with this setup it allows me to gank and get the kills for my team much more easily. I have much fun with this setup. It is not ideal for late game but it gets your team feed early if used right.

There are situations that I use the tanky setup but my favorite way to play is damage Hecarim. Most people don't prefer it but it works very well for my playing style. I just wanted to show people that there is a variety of way to play a champion and this is one of them and that building MS on Hecarim does work very well for doing damage.

Sorry... guide are good but where is the pros and cons?

I for 1 can actually say this is a pretty bad build overall.

For a start, Hecarim is particularly squishy coming out of the jungle now due to his W nerfs. In addition, you don't really build any tanky items until later in your game after Trinity Force, not to mention that Trinity Force is quite a heavy duty item to be building. It's barely passable even though the component parts are useful. HOWEVER, you choose to build it after Zephyr, so your power spike is actually severely delayed. Zephyr is not a priority item, especially not over Trinity Force, which isn't that great of an item on Hecarim anyway.

I don't feel Spirit of the Elder Lizard is worth it anymore since the damage nerfs to it. Hecarim has to pretty much go full tanky these days otherwise he gets blown up pretty quickly. tenacity is nice, but there's no reason to buy a Zephyr for this. This is quite a bit of a waste as a first item rush. Items like Sunfire Aegis or Randuin's Omen are really strong in the early game for tower dives and just general tanking.

I'm also unsure if going mostly utility in the mastery tree is worth it anymore. It just doesn't afford the same tankiness that Hecarim used to have a few patches back.

I also have a suggestion for you skilling levels as well - it's not mandatory, but it's definitely a consideration. Most junglers these days start bottom buff, rush second buff and then gank top as soon as possible. Thus, it's not unlikely that you can make a gank at level 3. For this purpose, it might be worth leveling up E at level 3. Of course, you can also farm 1-2 camps for that level 4 to hopefully have more impact on your ganks, but it's just a suggestion.

Also, Wriggle's Lantern really does suck on Hecarim. All the Spirit Stone items are more cost effective and superior in terms of stats. 7/10 times I would probably go with Spirit of the Ancient Golem, which then lets me take other sets of boots.

To be honest, I think you're focusing waaaay too much attention on Hecarim's MS passives. Sure he can abuse MS well, but that doesn't mean that it should be the focus of your itemization (especially the first 2 major items).

Suffice it to say, I'm not really a big fan of this guide. I think it is pretty poor.

Ok a few things
1. YOU are the one being rude, in your first comment "Wriggles and Trinity Force? I don't know where to start" that was really rude, so he has a reason to be rude back
2. well it does seem you didn't read his guide because A. you tell him to get an item he already gets B. yes tenacity is great on heck but he already gets it from another item and it doesn't stack. he says all that in his guide so if you did read it you should not have to say that so obviously you didn't read it
3. What is so wrong with wriggles? he needs armor in his build and free wards are awesome
4. I've tried his guide and it works AMAZINGLY, try using it before insulting it

Just stop being a troll and being so stubborn and saying that your way is the only way and every other person's way doesn't work because your way is best, try opening your mind and thinking about his build. Maybe you can become better, not just with this build but with alot of other builds you most likely have said suck just because they don't do it your way.

Look I actually am level 30 and have been playing Hecarim for a very long time. I don't appreciate it when people say my guide doesn't work when they don't try it. It does frustrate me that people aren't willing to try something new and just assume that my guide is bad because they think I should do what everyone else is doing.

With just Trinity Force, Zephyr, and Boots of Swiftness with Enchantment: Alacrity; I get 40 attack damage in-combat from Warpath which is just shy of a B. F. Sword. Many people don't understand that Trinity Force is amazing on Hecarim and just think that because I build it I'm bad. That is just not the case.

Most every game (about 80% of the time) I play as Hecarim I do best on my team so please don't just say that I'm bad with absolutely no proof. You are just saying your preference in items to build is better then mine but I think that my build works just fine.

Also many people beat on Wriggle's Lantern which I don't like. It is a great item. It makes you do the most damage to minions of all the jungle items. It gives armor which in my build I need some early and free wards are awesome.

About the Spirit of the Elder Lizard, I never understood why people say that is a core item on Hecarim. Sure it gives 10 more AD and the DOT for a little more damage but I happen to like getting ether Wriggle's Lantern or Spirit of the Ancient Golem. If you could tell me why lizard is so essential then I might try it out and put it in my guide if it works well.

how rude. I did read thru your guide all the way. I guess since trying to suggest to you what is wrong won't work so I'll come out and say it.

your theories are wrong. no lizard are hec... are you serious. you aren't level 30 im assuming and if you don't have a lot of experience in this game i would avoid making guides

At least you are an awesome pony.

@CrossoXoHair

1. I just adjusted the build to get Madred's Razors earlier. As to why I build Boots of Swiftness first, it gives me about 10 AD just from the movement it gives me so it lets me zip around and gank people easier. I have played Hecarim many times and found that it works well as a first item just try it.

2. Look at previous comment of mine if you want to know reason I build Wriggle's Lantern.

3. I added Iceborn Gauntlet to suggested items. thanks

4. Starting with w or q works. Just q is my preference.

5. Will do.

I don't know how to enable comment to vote.

Thank you for the constructive criticism. I love feedback.

First Trinity Force is one of the best items on Hecarim due to the tun of movement it gives him and spellblade which is awesome with Rampage. Second I haven't tried lizard on Hecarim so I'm not sure how well it does, however I happen to like wriggles. I get it because it gives armor and most damage to minions of them all. Also if you actually read my guide(obviously you didn't)you would have noticed that I already get tenacity from Zephyr so no need for the Mercury's Treads. Lastly I already get Spirit Visage in my guide.

Just signed up here to give you some feedback:)

I just played this build against AI bots and did WAY better with it than i did with the top rated guide on here for Hecarim. I know bots don't count, but none the less, I can see what you are trying to do.

Some Suggestions tho:)

1. I feel your build order is quite backward. Getting Madreds so late in the game seems like a waste, let alone wriggles. Also, Boots of swiftness first? Makes me think that although you can get to battles quick, once you are there, then what, I don't think this give u a good start.

To be honest, Im assuming that that is a build order, and now just a hey guys get these at some point, if so, make a build order please:)

2. As others have said, I haven't used wriggle at all since the new jungle items came out, so maybe test the others and see how you go:)

3. Maybe look at frozen gauntlet for the tanky build, as that will hold a team, rather than individual like trinity.

4. most other guides say to take W first, but you take 1, maybe give us a reason why:)

5. Also mention that if ya team hates you, best to go wolves, then ancient.

BUT other than that, I really like your guide as it IS different, and I think more fun. Just make sure you expand on all the sections as atm it is rather shorts (which I Like)

PS: +1 and don;t forget to enable comment too vote:)

wriggles and tf, I don't really know where to begin.

Maybe you should try a more "common" hec build first. lizard item is core on hec imo, ibg will remove the need for you to have so many ms items. cc is the enemy of hec so grab merc treads if they're cc heavy. grab a spirit visage for health, mr and that awesome passive. the ms -> ad isn't as strong as you think it is.

Please read whole guide before commenting.

If you read my guide then you would see that its purpose was to maximize IN-COMBAT movement speed for Warpath which you need the Boots of Swiftness and Zephyr. The Mobility Boots are not worth using on Hecarim as they don't increase his damage, and Boots of Swiftness have slow resist and highest in-combat movement speed. If you didn't know Hecarim gets countered by slows so the only boots that should be bought on Hecarim are Boots of Swiftness. About the Phantom Dancer I didn't say to use it. I said I used to use it. Though if you wanted more crit then the Statikk Shiv you could use it. Now to the reasons I use Wriggle's Lantern, it has armor and faster clearing times then both other jungler items as well as free wards.