Jungle

[quote=Azalea]Hey guys! I've been trying to find a good jungle to main, because lately it seems that in my game, all the other roles (including support, which is my favorite btw) are being called. I want to get to know the jungle because it's a crucial part of the game. My choices are typically [[Elise]] or [[Jarvan IV]]. I've been wanting to try to learn [[Udyr]] and [[Lee Sin]], since they seem strong. I have [[Sejuani]] and [[Shyvana]], which appear to be good junglers. The main focus of this thread is how to [b][[Udyr]][/b], but any other builds / ideas for the aforementioned champions can be thrown in there to improve my gameplay :3 Thanks guys ^^[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu]My way to play [[Udyr]]: 9x[[greater mark of attack speed]] or 9x[[greater mark of attack damage]] 9x[[greater seal of armor]] 9x[[greater glyph of magic resist]] or 9x[[greater glyph of scaling magic resist]] 3x[[greater quintessence of movement speed]] or 3x[[greater quintessence of attack damage]] 9/21/0 or 21/9/0 [[hunter's machete]] > [[spirit stone]] + [[boots of speed]] > [[spirit of the ancient golem]] + [[ninja tabi]] > [[sunfire cape]] > [[randuin's omen]]/[[spirit visage]] > [[randuin's omen]]/[[spirit visage]] I start with the blue which is at the bottom side. Then I take the nearest camp (Wolves/Wraiths) and go to Red. I use [[smite]] at both buffs. And I usually go [abilities=rwerrwrwrewweeeqqq champion=udyr][/quote]

[quote=Janitsu][[phoenix stance]][/quote]

[quote=Azalea]Is there a reason why you have to choose R over Q or vice versa? Why can't you max Q and R and not max something else like W?[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu]R gives me more jungling speed - which is very good in this meta - and Q gives me more initial dot and more dueling power. If I get heavily coutnerjungled I max Q. W doesn't give anything too important, except for the shield. The life steal is useless until you have Q or R at max level. E max isn't really worth it unless you are having squishy high damage no CC team.[/quote]

[quote=Azalea]So like, I'm confused lol. I played a game and I was able to max both (???)[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh][quote=Azalea] So like, I'm confused lol. I played a game and I was able to max both (???) [/quote] [[udyr]] has 4 skills that level up to 5, leaving one skill at 3. Usually, if you go tiger you max out Q,W,E and leave R at three for the last three levels.[/quote]