Because AP gets washed out. The damage curve for a standard AP nid build takes a vertical drop at about 20 mins.. this is because people build resistances and she just doesnt scale all that well, her ratios are really low... her AD scaling, that 1 Q in cougar deals more than her whole combo in AP....

try it first man.. i have an AP nid build too if you didnt notice, have some faith

why go for AD if all she all she does scales with AP? not to mention the heal that scales with more then 1 per AP point.

i go full AP on her, ring into mercs into guinsoo into lich bane and rabadon (the one i go first depends if im able to kill or i should go more support). i can only do this if I get solo top and she's an AWESOME solo. after mercs she's ungankable top. (no mana regen cus i have runes of mana regen and i ****ing love them)

dont get why you want to build her AD when AP is awesome. you can argue that you're trying not to be cougar reliant to be able to deal dmg. but if you want a ranged carry you have better choices. if you want a support, also, better choices. if you want a dmg dealer great for pushing, lane control, map control and ambushes, she's the girl, carry ranged carry not so much.

i play nida as much as i can (gotta have solo lane for her) and i've tried going hybrid, ad etc. and even AP caster style and AP guinsoo works best for me.

this may be a dumb question but have you tried solo top nida? map control with traps only on 2 spots (instead of 4 in mid) and 2 brushes nearby (istead of 0 mid). also, going WEQ (w to help jungler or protect him or E first, doesnt matter much) ang just go for E followed by Q.

the big issue i dont like on this build is the complete reliance on Q tiger stance, (no, i dont think auto-atacking is viable in a teambattle for here cus of no range), why go for 1 great crit on the carry when i can use several AP scalling spells on him
tiger, WEQ, going girl style, heal trap Q (with proc on lich bane) tiger etc etc...

btw this is not hate mail, i've used A LOT of your builds, yours and dewo's and they all work very well.

Definately nice. Played a game with you where you used it. complete rape no vasoline. Another +1 for John!

Good Build i prefer Ap though :P

Chancellor, its not ONLY about cougar, her Q crit in cougar is what i talk about through the WHOLE build, and i recently changed the marks, check the logs, sorry. I guess you had to read. I do say at the start its not ALL about cougar form, but her assassination burst comes from her cougar. There is just the DPS alternative which is nice to have present. And the point of the guinsoos is the midgame damage it adds, late game the guinsoos is minimal, and only gives some AP for your heal/jav, mid it is your key DMG item. Sorry if you didnt understand

I dont really understand this build whatsoever.


You have Marks for AD, but then in your guide you say grab Apen?

The main point i want to bring forth is one statement you made.

''This build isnt about Cougar Form.''

You might as well have said: This build isnt about Nidalee.

So whats the point of getting Guinsoo's? The point of picking it up is because when youre in Cougar form Pouncin around, you keep the stacks at 8, thus removing the need to be attacking to raise them up.

Going AD ruins her support ability with her Primal Surge.

As well, at different points throughout the guide, you say ''this is for Cougar form''. But earlier you said this build isnt about it?

Overall, i feel that this was quickly thrown together with no real proof-reading of any sort, plus the build is all out of wack.

-1's can always be subject to change though, ill check back later. ;]

thanks buddy :) appreciate the feedback :)

Another amazing build by HeAt, no surprise there. I think AD Nidalee has always been the best, as you can carry your team very well, and this build exposes that awesomeness. I also like the little bit of AP that's in there, works nicely. Very good job, +1.

@hybrixx: Archaic knowledge would give a minute amount of MPen, mainly because i do not go AP. The only reason i get a form of AP is for the mid game when they have very low magic res and for my heal, not for anything else. There would be no point in sacrificing the 4 armor pen, as 15% that early is 4 mpen anyway... (base 30). I dont build on magic, i build on armor, heads why i get CDR, but not the mastery. For glyphs, they are based on the current metagame. The metagame is mages get rabadons and tear face. The more magic resist the better IMO. that gets me to a base of 15, which when added to the banshees and merc treads, then scaling, adds up to about 120, which is more than enough to survive most late game AP heroes, even if they stack MPen.. (ex. 50 magic pen + 50% = 30 magic pen in the end, making me have 30% more HP vs. Ap heroes. Now most ap heroes dont get void anymore, so it is juts 50, in which case i am at 60 or so still, 60% bonus hp vs. heroes).. the way resistances work is that they are health efficiency, the more resistance you have, each point is 1% health vs, that type of damage.... hopefully that made sense..

I like Tigers

Why don't you get Archaeic Knowledge?? Also, maby you can get diffrent glyphs?

I'll think about changng my -1 if you can change my mind. tyty

Never really tried AD nid, gonna give it a shot. Seems nice to me and I'll report back if it worked too :) +1