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I plan on making a mini guide for fighting each champion using Wukong. I wanted to get your thoughts as to whether there is too much or too little detail? Feel free to comment on the actual facts as well. I just want to make this section clean for my guide. Here's what I have so far:






Ahri







Most likely Encountered: Mid

It's not very likely that you will be facing this champ early game, unless you mid. But if you do, I suggest starting with Boots of Speed and 3 Health Potions. Typical Ahri players will start with a move call Orb of Deception, which is a skill-shot that shoots a large ball out dealing true damage on the way back. The boots will help you dodge this and it's smart to keep moving so that she has to really aim her ball. This is her main harasser so you don't want to be too predictable with your movement.

Usually around level 3 or 4, Ahri will have another ability to watch out for. This one is called Charm and it really causes trouble early and late game. It is another skill-shot that shoots farther than Orb of Deception. If you are hit, your champion will slowly walk to Ahri, entranced. When Ahri lands a charm, she unleashes a full combo and it may be the end of you, if you don't have full health. However, it is easier to avoid this skill-shot. Charm stops at the first enemy it hits, including minions and your Decoy. It's a good idea to stay behind the farm unless you're engaging.

As Ahri's ultimate, Spirit Rush, gives her incredible mobility, I try to shut her down before level 6. Ahri, though nimble, is very squishy. You can use The Basic Combo against her and drop her health easily. I suggest you that don't engage in such a manor until after she uses Charm.




Akali








Most likely Encountered: Top / Mid

Akali, not unlike Wukong, is a very mobile champ. However, her play style is more dependent on dashing in and out for kills. Because of her speed, Akali is naturally squishy, giving you an early game advantage. Nimbus Strike and Crushing Blow alone have incredible burst against her, so I suggest using those two moves together. Occasionally, Akali will hide herself under Twilight Shroud. To ensure that you don't waste mana with your Q, wait until she uses Twilight Shroud before dashing in. If she is overly cautious (which is very likely), don't ready Crushing Blow until you are sure you can land the hit. Basically, you just want to harass her a lot before level 6. Keep in mind that Mark of the Assassin can cause trouble and make you somewhat vulnerable.

Once level 6 comes around, I recommend saving your Decoy for her Shadow Dance. Overtime, she gets three of these suckers and they can really mess you up! Her combo happens quite quickly so the sooner you can use Decoy to trick her, the better. Be careful for this anytime you're in a team fight as well. Akali is famous for jumping in and jumping out, picking off the vulnerable targets!

I don't want you to feel powerless however! IF you weren't letting her farm and maybe leading in a kill or two, she shouldn't be too difficult to kill swiftly. First course of action is to ensure that she can't escape. Those Shadow Dances work like Nimbus Strike and she can easily escape with them. Chances are though, that she'll immediately start with Twilight Shroud, an incredible juking tool. Save your Cyclone just for this, as even though you cannot see her, it will still knock her in the air. No guarantees that she won't escape, but that's you're best bet! Nimbus Strike after her as soon as you see her leave the shroud and Exhaust her, if needed.

Whatever you do, make sure your team knows that she is missing from the lane. If she wanders down mid or bot for a kill, she'll get fed very quickly and potentially cost you all the game!

For more in-depth coverage on how Akali works, see (link to guide that I used. The actual links to guides are in here, granted I get permission). The best way to counter an opponent is to simply just know your enemy.

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You spend a lot of time and space explaining things that could be outlined more briefly. Instead of writing an entire paragraph about why boots will help you avoid ahri's Q, just say "Boots will allow you to escape ganks more easily and dodge skillshots like Orb of Deception.

Go into as much detail as you like, but don't waste the reader's time. Keep the actual writing as short as possible and pack in as much information as you want. You don't want to ramble on a section this big (I assume you're going to cover a lot of matchups).
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Maybe put the information in spoilers to save space :p
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um.. why would you even list ahri?
wukong = top; ahri = mid
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Slappiz mentions Wukong vs Katarina, in his Katarina guide, might help.. :O
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I agree with PSI that there is a lot more being said in these paragraphs than answers given, if that makes any sense. I really really like that you list off the spell icons at the top though, I'm probably gonna steal that for mine :)

Your writing feels like you are talking to the reader, which is good, but it also just has a lot of filler. I can't talk much because as you can see below, I write a lot in mine...

"Usually around level 3 or 4, Ahri will have another ability to watch out for. This one is called Charm and it really causes trouble early and late game. It is another skill-shot that shoots farther than Orb of Deception. If you are hit, your champion will slowly walk to Ahri, entranced. When Ahri lands a charm, she unleashes a full combo and it may be the end of you, if you don't have full health. However, it is easier to avoid this skill-shot. Charm stops at the first enemy it hits, including minions and your Decoy. It's a good idea to stay behind the farm unless you're engaging."

Could be more like:

" Ahri's Charm, though also a skill shot that can be dodged, is extremely dangerous because of the taunt it casts on the first enemy unit hit. If you are hit with Charm then it is likely that you will get hit by Ahri's full arsenal and will be walking with a limp for awhile... Keep moving, never hold still, hide behind minions, and if all else fails, use your Decoy so as to avoid the taunt and the impending damage you are likely to otherwise take."

Mine is about a line and a half shorter *judging off of pre published quick reply box, but still gets all of the information across, while still having a bit of personality.

Also tehAsian has a good idea in using the spoilers. I love spoilers and use them primarily in my champion matchup section. The only reason I would see that you shouldn't do this would be if you were actually creating a separate guide, and then I would just name each chapter after the champion that you are writing about.

Here is an example of how I have formatted my champion matchup section:


Ahri

Replay: Coming Soon

Difficulty: Medium- Hard
Status: Rarely Banned


For In-depth Information to use when facing Ahri Click Here



Akali


Difficulty: Medium
Status: Rarely Banned


For In-depth Information to use when facing Akali Click Here

It looks better in the guide, but still just shows you how someone else is doing the same thing. I cover a lot of information in my matchups and that's why I decided to use the spoiler coding. The guide would appear so much longer if I didn't use it and it allows the reader the option to see the information they want to instead of having to scroll through the information they don't.

Note: it is possible to center the text for the spoiler title, but if you do then all of the contents in the spoiler would be centered as well. For this reason I chose not to , but you could since you have chosen to center that text anyways :)
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I like the spoiler idea a lot and yeah, it was probably was a bit wordy...I guess I didn't really go back and read. But I'll probably revise those sections tonight and keep that in mind for the future.

Oh and Koksei, I'm going to be putting in every champion. Mostly because you just never know when you'll be going through the jungle and you run into Alistar or something. I'll also have a mid and support guide, just for those with an open mind. Might not be the smartest choices for Wukong, but at least they'll have some guidance with it, if they try it.

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Should do what I do monkey; (Pulled from my guide)

CHO'GATH, THE TERROR OF THE VOID

Difficulty: 5/10

This is either a really easy opponent or a really hard one, depending on the player. Cho'Gath is fairly easy to fight in the sense that his moves are fairly obvious and easy to dodge. Rupture is one of the most obvious and easy to dodge moves in the game, but Cho'Gath players know this and generally look to see how you dodge and change how they use the move. Don't be too predictable. Be wary of Cho'Gath's Vorpal Spikes. They hurt when you're near his auto attacks. When he gets his ultimate, Feast. Have your jungler come in whenever he gets stacks. If he gets big, he's scarier and hard to kill, but if you shut him down and deny him stacks, he's actually kinda cute. :3 Also be aware that he can do the same thing you do, execute. If you're low on health he may Feast you. You don't wanna be a snack.

Summary: Dodge Rupture, Deny him stacks of Feast, Fight like a gentleman
Suggested Early items: Mercury's Treads Negatron Cloak, Chain Vest
Suggested Late Game items: Madred's Bloodrazor, The Black Cleaver, Last Whisper


Give the reader some info if they wanna be thorough, but give them a summary if they want quick tips.
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Does this look better you think? I tried summing things up a bit more:

As amazing it would be to just summarize Wukong's strategy for every single opponent in one huge paragraph, that just doesn't cut it lol. So I'm going to give you a general strategy for each opponent individually. It will be in alphabetical order to save the hassle of searching. Don't freak out if a champion's section seems somewhat too short. I may or may not fully complete a section. This will take me a lot of time to complete! But you will have everyone's info once I'm finished!


Ahri







Most likely Encountered: Mid

Spoiler: Click to view





Akali








Most likely Encountered: Top / Mid

Spoiler: Click to view




Alistar








Most likely Encountered: Bot / Jungle

Spoiler: Click to view

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I don't believe that this is going overboard. You want to give people all the information they need to play the champion to its potential, and if someone is overconfident or scared out of their minds for no reason, that doesn't help one reach the champion's potential.
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